ok so the idea of a 'collapse' of the West and parallels to the fall of the Roman Empire get bandied about quite a bit, but in reality , Rome was in a state of collapse for literally centuries and how many of the citizens had a clue in the moment.
while fiat money, IMO, has caused a massive downgrade in people's purchasing power and quality of life across the board, i don't think we will see a collapse in the apocalypse sense most people think, or even something close to the Mandibles.
i think we're already in a managed decline of an unsustainable system, but instead of some kind of revolution, i think life just gets a bit poorer and suckier. maybe bitcoin is the hail-mary equalizer, or maybe bitcoiners will accidentally become a new rich elite class, hated by the normies for getting 'lucky'
to me, i think of failed states like Lebanon (no offense to anyone from there), or other failed states. like, these places are still here and there are still wealthy people in them and restaurants and fancy cars, just the power and wealth distribution is horrendous.
what do you guys think a collapse looks like?