The bullish thing about these podcasts they've been doing is it'll probably be better if legacy media and legacy debate die in favor of podcast tours and debates there

I watched part of the VP debate and it felt like stepping in a time machine back to 2008-2012. It's done. Boring. Canned. Scripted. Yawn worthy and fake sound bite bs. And let's not start with the moderators and 2min per topic.

Make 1-3h podcast tours the norm for the future of candidate debates and public exposure.