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1100 sats \ 6 replies \ @javier 31 Oct
It's quite simple:
- Civil rebellion: made by citizens, which means made by subjects, which are slaves of the State Corporation. Their intention is just to change "legal" law or constitution (statutes) so they can feel more comfort in their jail. It is an ignorant rebellion, as they don't know they are under contract, and by rebelling they only aspire to slightly change their way of life. But everything will continue more or less the same after the rebellion.
- Lawful rebellion: made by Sovereign Beings, not subject to any Corporation. This is a wise rebellion, as the intention is to become free from oppression of the State Corporation, or any other Corporation which is trying to scam or coerce them.
Which brings us to two different aspects of a similar term:
- Legal: under contract.
- Lawful: under Natural Moral Law.
Something lawful can also be legal, if the contract is voluntary. Something legal may not be lawful, if it is imposed without previous well informed consent.
There you have.
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42 sats \ 3 replies \ @Lux 31 Oct
javier the Chad
not that puppet imposter Milei :)
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @javier 31 Oct
I taught Milei, and look how badly he learned his lesson...
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31 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin OP 31 Oct
LOL who knows, maybe this Javier is Milei, but we don't know yet
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @javier 31 Oct
Nooooo don't compare me with that statist....
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin OP 31 Oct
Thank you, I think your answer is the most detailed and right on point with the question.
Also you gave the explanation between legal and lawful, thing that none of others made the difference.
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @javier 31 Oct
Well, it is surprising to me how ignorant people are about Natural Law in this forum, considering it is a Bitcoin forum. Is people really understanding why Bitcoin exist? It is just about regaining economic sovereignty.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @rebel_nomad 30 Oct
All rebellion is lawful, and it should not be civil in any way! ;-)
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @OgFOMK 30 Oct
There is no such thing as lawful rebellion. On the other hand Civil Disobedience is action without violence.
It happens all the time with government where non-compliance exceeds the benefit of violence against civilians. In other words the activity is actually better in action than the crime being prosecuted.
A great example is in South Africa where non-whites were hired against the rules of apartheid because the economy benefited from their skilled labor and there were not enough whites to fill the jobs.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @OgFOMK 30 Oct
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BTCLNAT 30 Oct
Theorizing or conceptualizing a phenomenon can be biased or determined by the point of view of each individual or community. So I will try to do the best I can since it is not my field or comfort zone.
Regarding Civil Rebellion, I found these two statements interesting:
"Public and violent uprising against the powers of the State, in order to overthrow them or force them to act in a certain way."
"In Civil Disobedience, Thoreau's basic premise is that a law superior to civil law demands the obedience of the individual. Human law and government are subordinate. In cases where both are in conflict with each other, the individual must follow his conscience and, if necessary, ignore human law."
In the case of Legal Rebellion I have not found a definition directly regarding this term, but I have found something that LEGALLY justifies A REBELLION
"In political philosophy, the right of rebellion, right of revolution or right of resistance to oppression is a right recognized to peoples against rulers of illegitimate origin, or that having legitimate origin have become illegitimate during their exercise, which authorizes civil or family disobedience and the use of force in order to overthrow them and replace them with governments that possess legitimacy. In another sense, it can be considered that it is the duty of the people of a nation to depose a government that acts against the common interest and/or that threatens the security of the people without any reason."
I have marked between (*) two terms that legalize a rebellion,
RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE, DUTY OF THE PEOPLE
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 30 Oct
civil rebellion is internal to a nation and lawful rebellion can be internal or external.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @User21000000 30 Oct
Civil rebellion often uses “illegal “ acts of protest where lawful rebellion will try and use the law and legal grounds for protest.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @02879c7d869 30 Oct
Civil rebellion frequently confronts legality head-on, while lawful rebellion aims to operate within the confines of the law in order to defend rights or push back against perceived excess.
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