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1345 sats \ 14 comments \ @siggy47 1 Nov news

For the first time in 30 years, we have gone a long swath of time – since October 8-10 – since this service has chronicled the life of the Internet in real time.

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66 sats \ 0 replies \ @Jon_Hodl 1 Nov

In other words, the only source on the entire World Wide Web that mirrors content in real time has been disabled. For the first time since the invention of the web browser itself, researchers have been robbed of the ability to compare past with future content, an action that is a staple of researchers looking into government and corporate actions.

Erasing history right before our very eyes.

66 sats \ 2 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 1 Nov

Deep state? As with all these things, there is no way to know, but the effort to blast away the ability of the Internet to have a verified history fits neatly into the stakeholder model of information distribution that has clearly been prioritized on a global level. The Declaration of the Future of the Internet makes that very clear: the Internet should be “governed through the multi-stakeholder approach, whereby governments and relevant authorities partner with academics, civil society, the private sector, technical community and others.” All of these stakeholders benefit from the ability to act online without leaving a trace.

This is what you could have expected of any tyranny. They went after us the smart way this time. I hope the alternatives to Archive.org are working well. We sure could use them.

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 1 Nov

I hate when people say or write Stakeholder.

Are you a shareholder? No Are you an employee? No Are you a client? No I’m a stakeholder!

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 1 Nov

Yes, this is only a way to put people with no skin in the game into the decision making process. Then, whiteout skin in the game, they force companies to do their dirty communist work of pauperizing the people working there. The decisions these “stakeholders” seem to make pushes money and power into their pockets away from the true owners, workers and vendors of the company. “Stakeholder” means poison.

85 sats \ 0 replies \ @standardcrypto 1 Nov

archive.org is single point of failure. What happens if archive.org starts changing their cached articles? We'd have no way of knowing. Even if other services cached it differently, which one is telling the truth?

the solution is functioning web of trust and signed articles.

it's going to be unpleasant next few years / decades.

64 sats \ 0 replies \ @nikotsla 1 Nov

Focus on P2P services, never upload something to a central point that can be burn, like the library of Alexandria, but it's a hard path... and the shiny "fame" flame is what some humans are addicted to.

64 sats \ 0 replies \ @Malachi17 1 Nov

Doesn't substack still use stripe to process money matters?

64 sats \ 0 replies \ @zapsammy 1 Nov

start gathering ur own database of things that matter for learning and thriving, like Whitney Webb recommends.

43 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 1 Nov

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nitter 1 Nov bot

https://xcancel.com/doc_gero/status/1852019048617291993

41 sats \ 2 replies \ @Dash_1971 1 Nov

There's a mid wit in the comments saying we "need Internet on the Blockchain. It's urgent". He's probably 10 years ahead of most normies, and about 10 years away from figuring out there is only one use of Blockchain--which is Bitcoin.

At that point it'll take him another 5 years to understand what is needed is Nostr with Bitcoin/Lightning/ecash if a new decentralized censor resistant and verifiable Internet is going to be rebuilt.

So we are about 15 years away from mid wits catching up never mind your average normie.

I suppose it doesn't matter since mid wits and normies don't lead or build anything, they are simply there to consume. Still, do we need the mid wits to start to discover and consume their content over Nostr sooner rather than later? I wonder when we'll see the last mid wit "wE neeD BanaNaS oN thE blOCkchaiN" in the wild?

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 1 Nov

If it will take the midwits 15 years to catch up, it might take the nitwits 25 years to catch up. Of course, the world is full of midwittery and nitwittery! There is just no way to escape it.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Lumor 1 Nov

We could use something like OpenTimestamps to prove existence of information that is stored in a decentralized manner, so the intuition is not completely unfounded.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 1 Nov

I did have trouble finding it. I thought l had just used the wrong keywords.