The share of people who consider themselves on the far left or far right of the political spectrum is particularly high in the United States. This is the result of a survey by Statista Consumer Insights. 11 percent of U.S. respondents said they saw themselves on the far left (0 out of 10 points) and 19 percent on the far right (10 out of 10 points). By comparison, only 6 percent of Germans place themselves on the far left and only 7 percent on the far right. In the country, being centrist is also much more common at 24 percent, opposite the U.S.' 18 percent.[...]
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69 sats \ 12 replies \ @Cje95 7 Nov
In the US with how people label each other, I mean you vote for one or the other you are labeled extreme you think one way about one thing same thing. Adding in how people have created echo chambers with social media it has only fostered this. People might start talking about breaking up but if anyone actually does the math and logistics behind it... its a nightmare that just will never happen.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @gmd 7 Nov
The echo chambers are painful. Twitter has gone too far to the right, it's become 4chanified. Reddit is a complete leftist circlejerk (in denial again).
For those of us in the center who don't decide issues by identify politics it's infuriating that everyone has gone insane.
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0 sats \ 7 replies \ @kepford 7 Nov
Have you looked into any of the independence movements?
I think Bob Murphy makes a good case in his pamphlet. COMMON SENSE: The Case for an Independent Texas
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35 sats \ 6 replies \ @Cje95 7 Nov
Looking at the continent you have the US bordered by water on the East and West coasts and Canada and Mexico to the North and South respectively. It is extremely hard to create a country essentially within an already established one.
Its why with the UK people have said they are going to break up for years but when you do the math of the cost of Scottland leaving Scottland would go bankrupt almost immediately because of the money they would owe the UK with their percentage of the country's debt.
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @kepford 7 Nov
Good points. But you didn't answer my question.
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Cje95 7 Nov
I was born and raised in Texas and my first ever election voted to succeed. Then I learned everything about what that would entail and went ahhhh that's a stupid stupid idea.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford 7 Nov
Fair enough. Curious how the country moves forward in your view when it is so divided. Or do you reject the idea that the country is divided?
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Cje95 7 Nov
I tend to fall into the lane that obviously the country is crazy divided but I think a lot of that is reactionary due to social media. I look at it almost like a grudge… rn if I'm a Dem I hate hate hate this and want to burn everything down but in a year when politics politic and non of the crazy things happen that people said yeah we might be different but do you really still hate me?
If that doesnt make sense feel free to say so! I kinda feel like no one else looks at stuff this way lol
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 7 Nov
That's possible for sure.
Few things are more foolish to me than how people act about politics in the US. The idea of elevating it to above friends, family, and faith is so foolish.
I just don't see the release valve of elections working any more. Either their will be a peaceful separation or open violence / civil war. Not like "the civil war". Just people fighting with each other based on factions. I started seeing this back in 2016 as a direction and its just became more clear to me. It may not happen in the next few years but I see it happening in kids lifetime.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 7 Nov
You say that... never is a long time.
Do you actually believe borders will never change? Regimes will just continue for eternity? That seems insane to say. Remember the U.S.S.R.? Many thought that would never fall. Don't be so sure.
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54 sats \ 1 reply \ @Cje95 7 Nov
The USSR was relatively speaking new. The territories it gained in the West were not those that used to be part of it and because of the feeling that they belonged to their land and not the USSR created many of the issues that led to its downfall. Ukraine for instance was resistant and Stalin had to kill 5 million people and cause a famine to get that area under control. Unless you think Mexico or Canada are going to try and annex part of the US then I think we can say for now its highly improbable.
Also the US and Mexico do change the borders fairly often because of the Rio in Texas. As the river moves so does the border.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 7 Nov
I'm not saying they are the same, just saying never is a long time. Honestly many of the issues in the US could be better addressed at smaller scale.
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31 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheMorningStar 7 Nov
I don't take these surveys and data as a measure for the notion of politics in hhe states. I think US people are neither leftist nor rightist. I'm saying this because US still is one of best products created by democracy. There are many countries which have democracy but due extremism being very effective there, they have established far right and far left. USA, imo, doesn't exercise a little fraction of extremism as is done in many Democratic countries such as Pakistan.
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48 sats \ 24 replies \ @Undisciplined 7 Nov
It's also increasing pretty swiftly, including increased geographic polarization. We're heading towards a break-up.
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49 sats \ 1 reply \ @0xbitcoiner OP 7 Nov
I don't think the break here in Europe is going to happen just yet. But with Trump's election, it may accelerate, or it may have the opposite effect. Only time will tell!
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35 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined 7 Nov
I know these things don't always happen just because they seem like the logical outcome (just look Belgium), but it does feel like the direction we're going.
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14 sats \ 20 replies \ @Satosora 7 Nov
Breakup or a struggle to see which side has more power?
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25 sats \ 19 replies \ @Undisciplined 7 Nov
That's what elections are. Geographic polarization makes actual breakup much more likely. Neither side needs to control the other in order to get what they want.
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76 sats \ 18 replies \ @Satosora 7 Nov
It would have broken multiple times before if that were the case.
We have to find a balance or compromise.
All these old people making stupid decisions isnt helping us.
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24 sats \ 17 replies \ @Undisciplined 7 Nov
Why? It seems better for everyone if we just go our separate ways. There's no common ground in how the opposing sides want the country to be governed.
Instead of taking turns winning and losing, both sides could just be governed the way they want.
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11 sats \ 16 replies \ @Satosora 7 Nov
How do you even go about splitting the usa?
Any ideas?
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26 sats \ 15 replies \ @Undisciplined 7 Nov
It's already composed of 50 supposedly sovereign republics. They just each decide if they want to be independent or join a new union with a subset of the other states.
It's a lot easier than people make it seem.
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8 sats \ 14 replies \ @Satosora 7 Nov
Are they actually sovereign?
I think it is a bit harder than you think, that is why none have made that transition.
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4 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 7 Nov
Most unsurprising headline I've seen today...
Duh
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 7 Nov
I would like to know how many of these people just consider themselves "far left" or "far right" in general, but express opinions that are much more moderate or mainstream on specific issues.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner OP 7 Nov
Knowing this would be interesting, but difficult to quantify! It really does happen a lot.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @zarko 7 Nov
divide and conquer
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satoshi__Nakamoto 7 Nov
How?
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 7 Nov
This is always controversial, especially after an election.
Emotions are high right now.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner OP 7 Nov
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