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0 sats \ 15 replies \ @ch0k1 OP 20 Nov \ parent \ on: Two undersea internet cables connecting Finland & Sweden to Europe have been cut news
Think who can be interested in this action and what could be one's benefit?
Where is the logic Russia to blow its own infrastructure that is a huge wealth generator to its economy?
It's your choice who to trust but with the rapid falling authority of mass media like CNN and Politico (the sources you're citing) and the fact who owns them I would be deeply concerned about the authenticity of their info.
China would benefit hugely as now Russia is reliant upon China to buy its gas.
China gets cheap gas. and dependency of Russia.
Russia could perhaps front Chinas program to introduce CBDC payments via BRICS Pay...and help bring India on board...
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Lol, how would China benefit from blowing up north stream?
If they are so dependent on Russia for gas supplies, do you think that sabotaging Russian gas infrastructure will make them more favorable in Russia's eyes?
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China is not dependent upon Russia for gas- Russia is now hugely dependent upon China to buy their gas.
Blowing up the Nordstream pipeline leaves Russia dependent upon China.
Russia is now giving China anything they want - including advanced nuclear submarine technology.
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China is not dependent upon Russia for gas- Russia is now hugely dependent upon China to buy their gas. Blowing up the Nordstream pipeline leaves Russia dependent upon China.
Supplier is depending on the customer - Interesting theory...
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When a supplier has only one market they are captive to that market.
The destruction of Nordstream pipeline leaves Russia captive to the Chinese.
Putin has been begging for the Chinese to complete the second pipeline so he can increase flow/revenue.
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Oil revenue is a lifeline for the Iranian and Russian economies, but Western sanctions have jeopardized both countries’ ability to ship oil and receive payments.
Western sanctions are nothing but a weapon in the hands of a bullie. With all my respect but who do westerners think they are to be in a position to sanction anybody? Are they some sort of a high spirit or God? And for what? Starting a war? Hypocrisy to it's finest! Aren't the US the country that is causing (directly or indirectly the highest number or coups and wars worldwide?
Other popular "westerner" hoax is that Russia is the aggressor who is very dangerous because of the high chance of using nuclear weapons... shut up, another hypocrisy by US because it's them who history proves to be the only aggressor who ever dared to drop nukes over innocent people on the opposite side of the globe without even being threatened at all - just for fun!
Gas is expensive to ship - it is prone to being captive to a limited market/s within the reach of available pipelines.
With Nordstream pipeline/s closed combined with western sanctions, Russias strategic gas production income is now mainly dependent upon sales to China.
China gets Russias oil and gas exports at discounted prices.
It pays a similar below market price for Iranian oil.
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In response, Iran and Russia have redirected oil shipments to China—the world’s largest importer of crude oil. In 2023, China saved a reported ten billion dollars by purchasing crude oil from sanctioned countries such as Iran and Russia.
This is not from yesterday - Russia, China and Iran have trading relationships for ages + what's wrong of other countries to trade in whatever prices with whatever currencies they want? Maybe because they are "unlawfully" bypassing "westerners" causing them to lose money?