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I wanted to share this because of two observations:
  1. Why the Zoomer expectation is so surprisingly high
  2. Why the Millennials are so surprisingly low
Alright, about that first one:
The gut reaction of most people probably is that Zoomers are young, their impressionable years have been marked by inflation. They have more years into the future to think about and their character will be forever stained by this just like great depression babies had a different scarcity mindset even decades after 1929. And thus Zommers extrapolate from there for the next 40 years. 600k. Big number.
I think there must be something true to this. But don't forget that the youngest Zoomers are 12yo. Ask any 12yo about financial success and they will answer ONE MILLION. They would answer every question with one million. That skews the statistic.
Second thought: Why are Millennials so low? Surely there is a flaw in the graph here if its even lower than genX. Shouldn't it look more like this naturally:
Have a few birthyears been uniquely tainted by 2008? 2008 was bad but there were recessions every few years before that. What's different here?
And even more interesting for me: Will we see an effect of this on genAlpha, the children of Millennials? Maybe the future will hold an alternating pattern of scarcity-abundance generations. Reinforced by a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Could it also be that the Millennials were scarred by the 2007-2008 financial crisis and didn’t dare to dream big as compared to their Gen X counterparts?
Whereas Gen Z are faced with mounting inflation and student debt right from the get-go and know that they have to earn big by hook or by crook?
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That's my hypothesis.
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I feel validated
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Yes and yes... but I also think Gen Z watch too much Youtube and Tiktok, they want to be influencers and that's quite literally what they are basing their vision of success on. It's the sad Occam's Razor explanation for me.
From the same survey source as the one we're discussing in this post (Morning Consult): More than half of Gen Zers think they ‘can easily make a career in influencing’
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The infuriating thing is, some of them do make it as influencers, earning way more than what their teacher does.
(I am a teacher.)
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How many YouTube subscribers does an influencer need? A minimum >= 100,000
Very few people can achieve this milestone
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Ikr. @cleaningup12 has 1.08k subscribers for his channel haha
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I’ve heard and read YouTube pays the most, TikTok pay out is smallest.
This is all based on hearsay.
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587 is still too high unless you work in private equity or hedge funds or exit a successful startup
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34 sats \ 3 replies \ @Aardvark 23h
Who did they ask? None of this seems like average American responses. Like, most places in American you would be wildly successful at 200k per year. How is that the minimum amount?!
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bell_curve 21h
200k will go very far in a low tax state. As late as 1999, 200k was a lot of money in San Francisco! The good old days
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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @jasonb 20h
Yeah, in the American city that I live, you are living LARGE on $200k.
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The majority of Americans live in metropolitan areas, where it is very expensive.
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Basically: take this seriously but not literally. source
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That's certainly interesting.
Plenty of weird cohort/period effects in both millennials and Gen-z to point to as explanations but these numbers do seem a little too extreme to take seriously
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Not only America but other countries in the world should look at the salary structure!
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6 sats \ 0 replies \ @OT 23 Nov
Millennials are weird. They're working in Bitcoin prime but few seem to see the opportunity.
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What do they even mean by "financially successful" if they count in fiat and not in sats?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @co574 1h
GenZ grew up during the #bubbleconomics era, it comes with no surprise that their expectations are above the roof.
The Question is:
How unhappy are they with their low wages and how does that affect the economy in terms of productivity?
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Satosora 22h
How is genzs so high? Do they even understand the value of money?
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I wrote two theories about why in the post. That's just my speculation, you can make up your own mind
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