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hi all, we're looking for lightning-interested peeps to test our disposable node service....
right we're giving out 25k sats to each person who does the test steps so you have some funds to play with on your node ...
the steps on how to do this here: rizful.com/get_free_sats (let us know if anything is unclear...)
you can also get a general overview of what we're up to on the home page rizful.com thanks
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334 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 3 Dec
Link in the post doesn't work. The one up the top does.
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Thanks much. Should be fixed now.
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Rizful is designed both for short-term use by experienced Lightning operators, who might need a secondary node for testing or etc.... and also for classroom use, so a group of new users can all be onboarded to lightning in an understandable way.
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very good idea ! I like it!
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“Rizful was created by the team behind The Megalith Node,“
I have a channel with this node. Very reliable. Fees are a tad high but it’s dependable
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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Signal312 4 Dec
Your page shows a Testnet option - can I ask what version of Testnet are you using?
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See #14 here - https://rizful.com/ -- actually we entirely built Rizful using Testnet3, but realized that if we rolled it out to users with Testnet3, we were in for big problems -- Testnet3 is so broken now that it's basically impossible to open and close lighting channels without MAJORLY tweaking various defaults.. fees are so high on Testnet3 that most node implemenations will actually fail to do cooperative closes! But we are very psyched to roll out Testnet4 support as soon as we can -- ideally next month. It's critical for the education use-case.
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What’s this all about? Can this be done on mobile
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Yeah, it's web-based. Should work well on mobile. See https://rizful.com/ ... #11. Accessing your node from any 📱💻 device...
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Web-based has tradeoffs, but we want this work well for people who might have low-powered devices, Chromebooks, etc.
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Lost me at discord. Flotilla exists: https://github.com/coracle-social/flotilla
Good luck with your new service, though!
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Yeah, we would like to not use Discord. Does Flotilla have something user-friendly yet? We're all-in on Nostr but need to be sure that the system we use to communicate with new users while they are onboarding isn't too hard to use.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @B_rian 23h
Solid points. Flotilla is not mainstream yet.
What do you think of nip-60?
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nip-60 https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/60.md ... haven't gotten into Cashu yet... highest priority right now for future Rizful features I think is more and better Nostr integration. Might not need Cashu at all since each Rizful node is a fully-featured Lightning Node - and online 24/....
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It's interesting. What LN implementation is behind? Or is using Greenlight? Oh and you have also NWC support. Cool!
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Thanks. It's based on LND nodes + a lot of custom software we've written. Running lots o LND nodes in the cloud might seem simple at first, but just getting it to the point where they can be started, stopped, moved between instances, restored, etc., -- all reliability... ended up being really complicated....
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got stack at step 8.
The LN invoice does not load. Ad blocker off, so not sure what else could cause an issue...
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On our end we see a few users who HAVE generated invoices but have NOT contacted us yet on Discord. I wonder if you are one of these people.
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Thanks much. Any chance you could join our Discord and we can troubleshoot this?
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joined
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Rizful is 5 star, that's my review.
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Are these LND nodes?
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Yes. Under the hood we are doing a bunch of stuff to run LND nodes in the cloud.
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wasn't more easier using Greenlight, as for disposable?
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This looks very cool!
Would you also see a use case for this as a permanent node?
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Understand Rizful's security model...
Two-factor authentication, using Google Authenticator (or similar) is required for all Rizful users with balances above 100,000 satoshis. This is a powerful and widely-tested security strategy that should serve to keep bad actors out of your Rizful node.
But please understand the tradeoffs we've made: While studying the Lightning design space, we've realized there is a big, nasty problem with giving users a seed phrase and assuming they could restore their node at any time: Most users won't be able to successfully restore their node! Lightning's "static channel backup" restore model is confusing, even for experienced node-runners. Do "an SCB" wrong, and you'll lose all your sats. We think that giving new users a seed phrase, and asking them to take responsibility for all backup and restore.... that's a challenging route. So we've made a big tradeoff: We store the encrypted backups and retain the ability to restore nodes in the event of hardware failure. This should work well for new users and users with small balances, but is NOT designed for large production-scale nodes with high balances.
Don't expect an "abstracted" Lightning experience...
A common recent pattern is for apps and websites to attempt to "hide" the actual behavior of the Lightning Network -- instead of showing lightning channels, peers, and channel balances, an "abstracted" app might just show one "satoshis balance," and not even show the user anything called a "channel". This can be a good approach, but we've decided with Rizful to try the opposite: We provide ALL the data, directly from the underlying node instance, with the aim of providing a detailed, fully-annotated "teaching" node, that is also high-performance.
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Also for education. It's really designed so a classroom of students can be up and running on the LN and Nostr literally within minutes.
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There are other solutions for permanent nodes. But there isn't really a Lightning solution that prioritizes FAST create/destroy on nodes, and each account being able to quickly start multiple nodes.... (As far as we know. ) It might bring up use new use cases.
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For a permanent node..... right now, we don't want to push people in that direction just yet. Right now it's something to have fun with and try out Lightning and Nostr stuff in a low-commitment and "instant" way.
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Sounds great. I will try to free up some time tonight to play with this.
Who's behind the Megalith node? Anything to do with LND and their Taproot assets?
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Sounds great. I will try to free up some time tonight to play with this.
Thanks. You will be among our first users, we launched this a few days ago. Much appreciated if you can flag any issues you run into.
Who's behind the Megalith node? Anything to do with LND and their Taproot assets?
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Sounds great. I will try to free up some time tonight to play with this.
Who's behind the Megalith node? Anything to do with LND and their Taproot assets?
Dude who wrote these docs: https://docs.megalithic.me/
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