At some time step t, I had x sats. At timestep t+1, I had x-1 sats and a preimage. How can you call that symbolic when it is obviously a "real" payment?
I am trying to account for 1,000,000 milli msats that apparently got taken from me when I updated an app on my umbrel node. An app developed by the same team behind the implementation I am running.
Definitely pretty complicated... and technically over my head.
I use lightning every day and have been very impressed with it. Having said that I am slow to 'upgrade' to new versions for this exact reason.