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1389 sats \ 80 comments \ @ek 19 Dec mostly_harmless

In my quest to write about something close to my heart again (without depriving myself of sleep), I have an inquiry. See question in the title, which is about this sentence:

I’m as much a bitcoiner as I’m not.

I’m really curious about how people interpret this. Sometimes, I think it’s hard to interpret it the way I do, but then I wonder, how else could it be read?

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128 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 19 Dec

Most of us are Bitcoiners who don't actually Bitcoin, in other words: We're not running our own node, we're not actively bolstering the security of the network (mining), and we're not spending- nor accepting bitcoin for goods or services offered by us.

I'd like to say that's okay, but we all should at least do one of the above, even if it's shrimp-shenanigans like running a bitaxe or selling stuff on eBay every once in a while for bitcoin.

I'm not doing anything of the above right now, but I am trying to setup shop and accept bitcoin there in the new year, for that the curse laid upon me by myself may be shattered in the glory of my first received bitcoin payment! For Narnia!

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 19 Dec

I think it is recognition that while being a bitcoiner is part of your life that you are also many other things.

51 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek OP 19 Dec

Ok I think it wasn’t as mysterious as I thought it was for some reason haha

not that deep basically

64 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave 19 Dec

Not that deep in a way. But kind of super important and hard to integrate. Like everyone around me sees me as the Bitcoin guy because I never shut up about it. It's tricky to navigate.

53 sats \ 37 replies \ @DesertDave 19 Dec

To me, it is a reminder that I am a lot of things. Not just a Bitcoiner. I think that it is important to remember why we are stacking sats. I think deep down humans want to serve a purpose and help others. It is easy in Bitcoin, to focus on number go up. But it is a means to an end. It's great to have, but how do we put this tool to use and make a difference in our communities?

Thank you for this thought provoking post. I love to see it.

32 sats \ 0 replies \ @cyphercosmo 19 Dec

If we were born 100 years in the future and the world ran on a Bitcoin standard, people wouldn't be walking around with a Bitcoin t-shirt, it would be kinda weird.

So, our generation has to lift the weight and live this odd situation where you seem a bit genius and a bit mad for talking so much about it, and create the infrastructure, and educate people, etc.

Also, when using Bitcoin is normal for normies, looking the amount of sats would be equivalent to looking the amount of your preferred fiat currency, which is this weird proxy variable for happiness but not really.

Some people have nothing/everything and are unhappy. Some people have nothing/everything and are happy.

21 sats \ 6 replies \ @Fabs 19 Dec

You spend it all in the pursuit to turn wasteland into a fruitful food forest filled with animals from far and beyond. It's on my list if I were to strike it big in terms of purchasing power.

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @DesertDave 19 Dec

We are early. You already struck it big. Just keep stacking. We are all going to win.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Fabs 19 Dec

Nah, it's like a micro PP "big"

100 sats \ 3 replies \ @DesertDave 19 Dec

It's not how big it is. It's how you use it. I'm working with what I call an extra medium.. not much to milk from.

33 sats \ 2 replies \ @Fabs 19 Dec

Wait, are we still talking about our stack?

33 sats \ 1 reply \ @DesertDave 19 Dec

Yeah. Of course. Stacking sats occasionally milking them from others by what ever means.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 19 Dec

Hm, me likey.

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11 sats \ 0 replies \ @alt 20 Dec

This how I read it too. Being a bitcoiner is all well and good, but why? If you don't have some other purpose in life, what's the point of saving in sound money?

The more I work toward the important things in life (my family, my friends, my hobbies, my goals), the more reason I have to save in sound money. So, the less my life revolves around Bitcoin, the more of a bitcoiner I need to be.

The opposite is also true, the more I save and use bitcoin, the better my position becomes to focus on the things that really matter, and to provide for the people that I love.

11 sats \ 27 replies \ @ek OP 19 Dec

This is some quality assmilking. I like.

just trying to make assmilking fun again after all the tension we’ve had recently about it, I hope you understand

21 sats \ 21 replies \ @Fabs 19 Dec

We should give dickmilking a chance, maybe we'd grow surprisingly fond if it. 🤗

10 sats \ 18 replies \ @DesertDave 19 Dec

I mean it sounds way more fun to receive at least.

0 sats \ 17 replies \ @Fabs 19 Dec

Receive? If we're talking plural, other doors open.

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0 sats \ 14 replies \ @Fabs 19 Dec

Hm.

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11 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek OP 19 Dec

Ok, I’m right behind you

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 19 Dec

B-b-but... Are we the same girth-size? I don't want to waste energy!

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @cyphercosmo 19 Dec

I'm not sure what that means and if it's what urban dictionary tells me then eeeww.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek OP 19 Dec

It’s a SN inside joke

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DesertDave 19 Dec

I don't get it. I guess that's why I get milked a lot. Damn it. He was right.

11 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek OP 19 Dec

It means we’re having fun

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave 19 Dec

Oh well then. He is spot on. I have tons of fun here. Thanks for keeping it fun.

33 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 19 Dec

First, I fear for you that you're a shitcoiner. Then, I realize you probably mean you are more than your interest in bitcoin.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek OP 19 Dec

I predicted the reply of the wrong person

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 20 Dec

I saw. You said evoked, so I thought I'd relay my fast brain response in addition to my slow brain one.

21 sats \ 5 replies \ @Imyourfed 19 Dec

This makes me think about balance and identity. “I’m as much a Bitcoiner as I’m not” is like admitting that we don’t have to fit neatly into one box. It’s about being part of something and still keeping your own perspective being in it, but not consumed by it.

Or maybe I misunderstood your post?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Fabs 19 Dec

I thought we're a cult? That's why I joined, at least. I always wanted to be a cultist.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Imyourfed 19 Dec

I’ve never been part of a cult, so I wouldn’t know. But do cultists get consumed by their ideology?

I always wanted to be a cultist.

Interesting! I've seen very few people say that.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fabs 19 Dec

Cultists are the ideology.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek OP 19 Dec

Your understanding is okay

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Imyourfed 19 Dec

Thank you, sir!

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @cyphercosmo 19 Dec

I believe you mean that you are not attached to it.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek OP 19 Dec

10 sats \ 3 replies \ @Bit_Alb 19 Dec

I’m as much a bitcoiner as I’m not.

Makes no sense to me. 🤷

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek OP 19 Dec

I appreciate your honesty

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Bit_Alb 19 Dec

I don't mean that in a negative way, that you wrote some nonsense. I say it makes no sense to me because I don't understand it.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek OP 19 Dec

I say it makes no sense to me because I don't understand it.

no worries, that's how I read it

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @denlillaapan 19 Dec

We contain multitudes

10 sats \ 3 replies \ @cyphercosmo 19 Dec

ChatGPT's take:

Given that EK explicitly rejected:

The learning/growth interpretation

The non-attachment interpretation

The balanced life/higher purpose interpretation

This points toward a more subtle or philosophical meaning. Since it's structured as "A = > not A", it could be suggesting:

A quantum-like superposition - simultaneously being both states

A critique of the binary "bitcoiner/non-bitcoiner" categorization itself

A statement about the fluid or evolving nature of identity

@ek ?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @ek OP 19 Dec

A critique of the binary "bitcoiner/non-bitcoiner" categorization itself

👀

21 sats \ 1 reply \ @cyphercosmo 19 Dec

Damn, I was betting on quantum-like superposition, it would be cool.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek OP 19 Dec

Mhh, that’s also accurate

There’s probably a little bit of quantum superposition in all of us

10 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE 20 Dec

It's hard for me to understand why people want bitcoin and at the same time not self custody. Why not just buy an ETF or something?

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @ChrisS 20 Dec

To me it means as much as someone might say they are a bitcoiner or even a bitcoin maximalist at the end of the day all bitcoin is is a tool. A tool that many believe will help achieve goals that matter in life like having a having a healthy family and being able to choose what we work on on a daily basis without relying on working for somebody for a paycheck. Bitcoin is the means not the ends.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryotosensei 20 Dec

There are some routines and rituals characteristic of Bitcoiners that you have adopted. But there are other things about the Bitcoin ethos that you reject/have not adopted because….

I commented first without reading other comments

0 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek OP 19 Dec

I predict this will be the sha256 hash of a reply similar to what @DarthCoin would reply:

1862cf53960c89c96b058701520b9f3868d786f4e2464d95de73ff27b5f65a0c

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @DesertDave 19 Dec

😂

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek OP 19 Dec

Since he refuses to reply in this territory, this is the preimage:

It means you are a shitcoiner

you can verify here

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DesertDave 19 Dec

It's okay. I do trust... sometimes. 😉

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek OP 19 Dec

But you don’t have to 👀

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DesertDave 19 Dec

Nah. I wouldn't know what I was looking at probably. I'm just a simple desert creature. Computers are hard for me.

0 sats \ 6 replies \ @Satosora 19 Dec

I guess it depends on how staunch of a maxi you are?

20 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek OP 19 Dec

What is 'it' in this sentence

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @Satosora 19 Dec

It is....what is it in this sentence? Maybe the sentence should go more like, "depends on how staunch of a maxi you are?"

20 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek OP 19 Dec

You just removed the first two words, I am still as confused as before if not more.

Do you mean your interpretation of my words depend on how staunch of a maxi I am?

If so, I wanted everyone to read this without thinking about who wrote it 👀

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @Satosora 19 Dec

I dont get it... You asked what we thought of your sentence. I said it depends on how staunch of a bitcoin maxi you are. In that context, it makes sense to me. @DarthCoin do you understand what that means?

20 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek OP 19 Dec

Why do your thoughts depend on how staunch of a maxi you are? 👀

Or I guess maybe that is your thought. If so, I apologise for the confusion.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 19 Dec

Let me try to reiterate better. I think when you put that quote down, it made me think that you would only have this conflict if you were not a bitcoin maxi. If you were 100% bitcoin, you wouldnt even waste your time with this thought. You would have no conflict.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @Coinsreporter 19 Dec

In short you think you still have scope to learn about Bitcoin.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek OP 19 Dec

The noodles are cold