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93 sats \ 41 replies \ @BlokchainB 23 Dec \ on: Should the 49ers pay Brock Purdy??? Stacker_Sports
I say no. Brock should take a hometown discount and get $20 or $25M per year. Use the rest of the space to fill out the roster.
I’m tired of these QBs taking the full max then complain that they don’t win. Only a few guys can command top dollar and still be good enough to carry a team
Brock just isn’t that guy. Good player sure but he’s not carrying the niners alone.
Ain't going to happen. No QB is going to take a hometown discount and there are only 3 "that guys" in the league. You could spend the next 20 years tanking and failing to get one.
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Offer him a 2 year contract
It’s not the amount that kills a team. It’s the long term guarantee
Denver is paying Russell 40 million this year
Cleveland is stuck with Watson contract
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That’s true but someone who watched the bills suffer with bad QB play for 20 years we overpaid mediocrity and it didn’t serve us any. We shouldn’t have paid Ryan Fitzpatrick and Tyrod Taylor.
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I get it. You don’t want to pay a non top 5 guy like a top 5 guy but I do think in the right scheme as we saw with the 49ers last year and the Lions this year you can take a good QB and get top 5 play out of him.
My big issue is if they aren’t going to give him a good OLine the league will exploit his weaknesses and he will end up being a mediocre QB.
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A good OL takes cash. If it’s all tied up with Purdy less dollars to go around.
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True but they will structure the contract well to keep the cap hits low for the first few years and then restructure as they get huge. 49ers are masters at that.
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I'd say something in the $30-$40M range isn't crazy. We're seeing a lot of teams regret handing out those monster QB contracts and I don't think Purdy has proven that he can carry a team.
The big money is for the handful of QB's who can carry a team without a lot of help.
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He isn't signing for below market. Maybe a slight discount compared to Dak but QBs are getting paid. It is what it is. They could make him play out his last year and franchise tag him but then he might hold out. I will cover that in my post.
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I was going to ask you if he's tanked his market value.
I'm not sure which other team is going to be interested in throwing $60M at him.
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Raiders need a quarterback lol
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We have plenty of QB's. What we need is a good one.
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What do you think of Justin Fields?
I think he still has potential if he gets in the right system. I don't trust what I saw with the Bears considering how incompetent that franchise is.
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draft class of 2021 is cursed because of covid which made reliable scouting impossible
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Not just in the NFL either
Kirk Cousins would be a better QB. He knows the Shanahan offense. Mike Shanahan drafted him in 2012.
Plus he is a first ballot HOF, Hall of Finance
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Cousins didn’t look very good this year coming back from his Achilles.
I'm out. You guys basically had Fields, with Lance, and that didn't work.
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I get the comparison but I think Lance was always more raw than Fields and we have seen Fields be good at times in the NFL. Lance has never been good. All the talent in the world but doesn’t have the processing ability to be an NFL QB.
I don't think he has tanked it. He is 11th in QBR that's certainly worse than last year when he was top 5 but still in the top half of the league. 49ers have him under contract for next year so he can't negotiate with other teams right now. One would assume he and the 49ers will have a better year next year but if they don't extend him and he has a similar year I would agree it is unlikely a team would pay him 60M.
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I'm worried you're about to end up where we were with Carr. He flashed top 5 QB potential in his 2nd and 3rd seasons, but settled out around 12th-15th.
You end up in QB purgatory, paying guys like that as though they are premier QB's.
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Fair concern but that's likely a risk with a lot of guys. There are only a few elite QBs and then another tier of 5-7 guys that could have top 5 potential.
I do understand the argument that you always need to be trying to get a top 5 QB but I also think as we saw with the 49ers last year and the Lions this year you can get top 5 QB play from a top 10 or top 15 QB in the right system with the right pieces. I mean Goff and Darnold look like top 5 QBs this year. Who would have thought that was possible?
Shanahan trusts Purdy more than any QB he has had. I think that goes a long way. Ultimately I think they will sign him but I will lay out both cases in my post later in the week.
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My biggest concern is if they sign Purdy but don't address the offensive line. We know Purdy is small ( a lot of batted down passes), has small hands so he doesn't play well in inclement weather and is limited throwing downfield. If you don't give him at least a decent OLine you are just inviting defense to stack the box, stop the run and try to force him to beat you 30 yards downfield.
If you give him the Detroit Lions OLine he going to be the most efficient QB in the league.
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small hands so he doesn't play well in inclement weather
Oof, that's another major Carr red flag.
I don't think you need a top 5 QB. The mistake is paying a non-elite QB as though he's elite. It just doesn't leave enough cap room to fill out the necessary support.
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I get this argument but didn't really want it to be the basis of this poll. The 49ers created 55M in cap space this year with a team littered with All pros and big contracts. They are among the best in the league at manipulating the cap. Of course there will be trade offs when you are paying a guy 50 plus million a year but I am not too concerned about their ability to manipulate the cap and structure the contract in a way that allows them to keep a top tier team.
Who else would be interested in signing him?
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No one right now because he is under contract next year.
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Darnold will be a free agent after this season
He will set market rate for Purdy
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