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Elon the 'free speech absolutist' strikes again

941 sats \ 22 comments \ @zuspotirko 27 Dec Politics_And_Law

Honestly, this is hilarious on some level. To anyone with average intelligence it was clear from the beginning that Elon is not for free speech.

Up until today

Here is are the major impediments to free speech on X the every platform as to my knowledge:

Banning the account that tracks Elons private jet. It is kind of understandable on a human level but this was the first sign that there is no free speech on X. There is no compromise, there isn't even a slippery slope: either there is free speech or there is not. It should also be noted that accounts that track Taylor Swifts jet ARE STILL UP! Hypocrisy.
Banning the word "cisgender". Even if you're a rightwing "anti-woke" culture warrior I expect you to acknowledge that any compromises to free speech are destroying all free speech, including the ones one does not agree with

Yesterday night

I do not think that freedom of speech is freedom of reach. But I do consider what happened tonight a wakeup call for everyone who is still in denial. Major impediments to reach until yesterday were afaik only on broad strokes on liberal and leftist accounts and maybe a few people personally like probably Grimes and Ron Desantis. Major impediments to reach as of today:

Laura Loomer personally and a forceful removal of all her paid subscribers
"The conservative OG" had their organization badge removed, all accounts associated lost their blue check reach multiplier (they are still paying tho)
Speculative: I suspect but do not know for sure that accounts associated with the VC or tech scene got a malus now. If it's the same malus or a softer one than liberal/leftist have is unclear. Maybe Twitter engineers have programmed a whole system for manual malus factors now.
Individually suspended accounts:
It seems like Elon personally was angered yesterday night with a few people ratioing him personally and they got a ban personally.

Conclusion

You do not get free speech just because it's "your guy" who's in charge. A digital town square must not centralized. It could consist of multiple plattforms (e.g. Fediverse) or one decentralized plattform (e.g. Nostr). But it cannot be one plattform.

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41 sats \ 0 replies \ @IamSINGLE 27 Dec

Elon is the worst person in the world right now.

73 sats \ 4 replies \ @siggy47 27 Dec

Honestly, this is hilarious on some level. To anyone with average intelligence it was clear from the beginning that Elon is not for free speech.

Couldn't agree more. Now that he's aligned with Trump bitcoiners seem to ignore all the many reasons to dismiss this guy.

41 sats \ 3 replies \ @justin_shocknet 27 Dec

many reasons to dismiss this guy

Give me one.

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @siggy47 27 Dec

Well, the OP gave a good one. Here are a few more of his greatest hits:

We're really just trying to accelerate the events of sustainable energy. One of the downsides of crypto is that it is computationally quite energy-intensive."

Dogecoin may be my favorite cryptocurrency. It's pretty cool."

On May 12th, Musk unexpectedly posted a tweet that announced Tesla would no longer accept Bitcoin for its cars as it is "concerned about rapidly increasing use of fossil fuels for Bitcoin mining and transactions, especially coal, which has the worst emissions of all."

41 sats \ 0 replies \ @nitter 27 Dec bot

https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1392602041025843203

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 27 Dec

OP gave a good one

No he didn't #826312

Bitcoin

#791880

Reality is that had he not been part of the enabling of Space Force and the seizure of twitter, Bitcoin would be the farthest thing from anyones minds in that extremely dark timeline.

All the whining about him reeks of envy, which is all the left has.

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @2112 27 Dec

I don’t think Elon is bad. In fact rather the opposite, he’s lit a torch on a hill. Doesn’t mean we should stop there - yes keep climbing because you’re right true freedom of speech will be decentralized and disintermediated

26 sats \ 0 replies \ @oliverweiss 27 Dec

The Hammer of Justice 🤣🤣🤣

5 sats \ 4 replies \ @Fiatrevelation 27 Dec

A digital town square must not centralized. It could consist of multiple plattforms (e.g. Fediverse) or one decentralized plattform (e.g. Nostr). But it cannot be one plattform.

Is SN in the running?

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @zuspotirko OP 27 Dec

I think interconnected centralized plattforms are in the run together.

"SN inside the Nostr network" is in the running, yes.

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @Fiatrevelation 27 Dec

So is it the decentralized aspect, the pub/private key and data sovereignty, or the bitcoin aspect?

To me information networks themselves seem inherently centralizing, which I think is a symptom of "network effects."

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @zuspotirko OP 27 Dec

A real decentralized platform is always preferable. A federation of centralized platforms is a compromise. The problem are closed centralized platforms.

To me the main point is moderation, abuse of power, algorithmic feeds etc. If there are pub/private keys or any of the other stuff you mentioned is only secondary to me. Feel free to disagree.

5 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fiatrevelation 27 Dec

The problem are closed centralized platforms.

I agree

To me the main point is moderation, abuse of power, algorithmic feeds

Nostr relays are moderated, as in users can be removed/censored from them. It's still so early so we can't really tell if/how this will be abused. And nostr clients are using algorithmic feeds now. Also, the social media use case for Nostr is just one of many, and for it to compete here while being decentralized, I don't really know how it will look.

Social networks ubiquity is what attracts normies to them and a big reason they are so useful. In other words, I think people use them because they offer a maximal reach, 'anyone can be a star'. Not saying I like this, but seems true.

If there are pub/private keys or any of the other stuff you mentioned is only secondary to me.

Private and public key ownership is what makes Nostr a good protocol for maintaining decentralization, because users are free to take there data to any client/app they please. In this sense Nostr is 'open.' This is a positive.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @galt 9h

Free speech advocates recommend Nostr, everything else is or can be captured and people will jump from platform to platform (e.g., X to blusky) until realising that it's Nostr only

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 27 Dec

Sounds like malcontent cope like most of OP's shit euro-weenie takes.

At least half these anecdotes are false, the others are allegations by cringe accounts ironically made on this same platform they're accusing... therefore retarded.

If you don't like that app, don't use it... crying here about it is just a virtue signal.

Reality is it's the consensus network of 0-minute news with no real competition to speak of on the gradient of free speech (I bet the over-jabbed OP has never cried this much about Gab)

Should free speech absolutists use Nostr? Probably, but unfortunately there's no usable implementation of it because there's more virtue signaling than building... I can't do it all myself.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 27 Dec

As expected

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @7e6e393a56 27 Dec

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @stack_harder 27 Dec

well there's nostr, people crying when there are viable alternatives

i have to say though, watching the chaos unfold and potential justice hammering is entertaining

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 27 Dec

Yeah, there are criticisms of Elon that may be open to debate, but the claim that he's any sort of supporter of free speech is ludicrous.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @SwapMarket 27 Dec

Elon will upload his consciousness to the cloud and live forever to rule this world. Mark my words.

26 sats \ 0 replies \ @profullstack 27 Dec

fuck elon

26 sats \ 0 replies \ @Coinsreporter 27 Dec

X is Elon speech, not free speech. Stay away. I've ignored it for more than 6 months now.

Nostr is better. SN is a gem.