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Longest Lindy we have
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please say more!! How do you know?
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @000w2 23h
Yes. You don't need to register with the government to have a relationship with someone.
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100 sats \ 3 replies \ @flat24 27 Dec
If a third party is required for validation, and this third party is the church or the State, of course the concept of marriage that we know is a total farce and a mega scam. They are clever in this case, they took sentimental, family, religious, and manipulation issues so they can supervise everything. I think that real marriage is simply a mutual commitment between both parties, in a personal, sentimental and real way. Without the need for external validators, simply the trust and unbreakable will of those who really participate is what matters and what gives it shape.
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339 sats \ 1 reply \ @anon 28 Dec
My wife and I didn't get a marriage license when we got married. Our marriage is between us and the state has no business being part of it. We had a typical Christian wedding: ceremony in a church that was performed by her grandpa and a reception afterwards.
We are best friends, devoted to each other, and have a few children together. Definitely not a scam if you find the right person.
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You're living the dream. Finding the right person is the ultimate life hack.
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Why do so many of us fall for the scam of needing the validation? To your point -- probably because it's tied up in religion etc.
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Do you registration of marriage?
It's not happening at a large scale in India. So, It's not a scam then.
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150 sats \ 1 reply \ @Yogi 22h
Union between the two people isn't but the legal contract abiding them two together is one of the biggest scams out there.
I got scammed, still happily married though.
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I'm sorry for the scam but very happy for your love.
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Idk, my photography teacher was with his partner for 10 years and then established a "civil marriage" or something which sounded to me a bit more of a natural thing to me. No paperwork and contracts involved. Love shouldn't need ink and paper.
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I agree. Invite your friends, your family, and loved ones and pronounce your love and promises in front of everyone. Celebrate, dance, cry together… and that should be enough
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I wonder why they ended up going the civil marriage route! Very happy for their relationship.
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1081 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b 27 Dec
Contracts aren't a scam and marriage is just a contract afaict. The contract itself isn't a scam even if you're scammed by your counterparty along the way.
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What if the contract is fair, but the underlying premise/promise/cultural narrative behind the contract is a scam (ie by entering into this arrangement you are entering into the ultimate expression of love and an eternal, undying promise of happy ever after)? And moreover, what if the whole nature of the contract is unnecessary in a modern world -- ie we can still share a life with someone and have deep meaningful relationships without the institution of a marriage sanctified by government?
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35 sats \ 0 replies \ @Miranda 23h
marriage is an institution where both parties have to do their part for mutual edification, the paper can support anything, and you can marry any institution but really the wedding is between the two people who decide to join and share a life together, marriage is important when both parties give it importance, we have seen couples without perfect papers, and couples full of papers and permits and are a disaster. everything is in the person, in mutual love and in the good principles that govern them.
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Do courts recognise spousal and parental rights if the husband and wife did not register their marriage with the state?
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310 sats \ 1 reply \ @zapsammy 16h
a threesome with the state is a scam.
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word. threesomes are always a scam.
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I say it is. Another institution for selling us more stuff we don't need, like lawyers, yay!!
I think ceremonies are beautiful and coming together with a counterpart is great. But contracts with it? Not for me. I think we should choose into our lives everyday. No need to have a contract. Just a desire to communicate and continue together.
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35 sats \ 0 replies \ @ama 27 Dec
Marriage was a contract between kings to perpetuate power and wealth and later, through the invention of romantic love, a strategy to privatice care.
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Ya
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nym 7h
The vows and intentions are genuine, but the state's paperwork and processes seem to be predatory and scammish, such as the cost of the license, privacy concerns from mandatory public registration, and profits generated from name changes and other paperwork.
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I got married so that my wife could apply for a leave of absence. I guess by essence it feels scammy and I think it could be. But I would call it playing with the rules of the game. By telling the truth the leave of absence would have been denied. I have been told it could lower taxes, although I didn't check. It can be convenient for health insurance to share a status I believe, although it applies only for those who get medicine from State approved doctors anyway (not for me). I see marriage as a social construct that can be useful to exploit as long as you get something beneficial. Marriage feels to me like the age of majority. Suddenly you are an adult but why not decide an adult is 19.5yo to instead of 20yo? Or 19.999yo and count in lunar years instead of solar years? So marriage to me is a pure social and arbitrary construct that I used to my advantage. It feels scammy but society believes it is not, this is what matters. Like fiat money, what matters is people think it has value. Marriage may lose its value and feel like it is a scam if many people feel it is abused with laws like those which approve gay marriage. Like fiat money, abusing a social construct from its original meaning (value derived from gold back currency) makes it questionable.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @galt 14h
Marriage laws protect more the woman than the man so she is marrying the state as much as she is marrying her partner. Evidence of scam is that in many countries being unmarried leads to paying more taxes so the state has to use coercion to have its nose in people's affairs and control people's lives
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The concept of pair bonding for the sake of survival, having a family and raising the next generation with a stable foundation, I don't think theirs an issue with that, I don't think anyone would argue that this is not a scam
Where I think this goes sideways is when people pair up for other reasons, today it's hard to live on your own, get your own place so dual income to get a home pushes people into marriages of convenience which isn't a good footing to keep something together
Then you have an industry that profits off selling the whole dream wedding which isn't the lifetime marriage, that's just one day and people get scammed there. Selling people on the event and not the reaity of commitment
Then there's government getting involved mandating you split up assets a certain way and providing an incentive to not work on your issues but reward the party with less financial resources to walk away
Ultimately people have autonomy, they need to decide for themselves, do I want to tie myself legally to certain obligations and if so, vet the person they're planning to link up with and well people don't do that so they get what they planned for, is their pitfalls yes, is it a scam, i don't think so, I just think people scam themselves
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