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50 sats \ 4 replies \ @ZezzebbulTheMysterious 30 Dec 2024 \ on: Jordan Peterson Book Club: Why Do The Intelligentsia Hate JBP? BooksAndArticles
While JBP has some interesting talking points, I find that I wholesale reject most of his positions. I reject the 12 rules and embrace chaos. JBP belives that chaos must be shunned, I do not believe he is correct, this is the natural order. Thrive in chaos.
He ultimately tries to blend mythology and religion into his philosophy, in a clunky way which leads to broken conclusions and reinforcement of dogma.
JBP is a smart man, but not a kind man. Kindness is very important.
What do you think kindness does? That is, why do you think it's important?
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Anyone can be an asshole, that's easy.
It takes a special human to have empathy for others experience, even when it does not reflect on ones own experiences.
Intelligence is not distributed evenly in society, and kindness isn't either.
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This book kind of convinced me otherwise
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My take on Blooms take is that:
Bloom isn’t against kindness, he against empathy as a fuzzy emotion that frames the effectiveness and kindness actions. He is saying it is unreliable and leads to unkind outcomes by inherent bias.
I believe bloom is arguing that the kindest action is probably one without the bias of believing you understand another’s experience. A certain empathy can cloud one’s judgement, especially if it is based on incorrect understanding. You see this played out where say, a socially liberal person proposes a “kind” policy, but this policy is turns out to be exploited. The socially conservative folks then argue against the kindness of the policy; but that was not the problem. The problem is optimization for the wrong metric with regard to the policy. It wasn’t exploited due to kindness, it was exploited due to effectiveness (rules, enforcement, implementation detail).
Social policy must be assessed on both effectiveness (factoring in cost, time and relation to other methods), acceptability by participants (no workers or no customers = no business) and kindness (societal acceptance, purpose).
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