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Broadly speaking, I'm supportive of public companies issuing stock and other regulated securities on Bitcoin, as a way to make it easier for them to directly raise bitcoin capital. I also understand the appeal of having stablecoins like USDT settle and trade on Bitcoin, though I don't expect stablecoins to be necessary in the long-run.
I do have concerns though about the Taproot Assets protocol, created by Lightning Labs. Namely, it seems to require the user or some "universe" to back up the proofs representing each transfer. Without the full history going back to the genesis transaction, your assets are lost.
Is anyone else concerned by this? If a user loses these proofs and they aren't backed up elsewhere, or if they die and their heirs have the seed phrase(s) but don't know where to find this data, the user's assets could be lost forever.
With USDT, it seems like Tether will run its own universe that will back up this data, but what's to prevent them from losing it? If they lose a proof, either by purpose or by accident, and the user does not have a copy, there is no way to prove the data ever existed. Cynically, you might even say that it could be in Tether's interest to "lose" a proof, as that would reduce the amount of redeemable USDT outstanding.
Personally, I'm not sure if I'd be comfortable holding a significant quantity of Taproot Assets under this arrangement. I'm not a fan of the memecoins created by Runes, but as a token standard, at least the data is all onchain and seems to be relatively compact.
Thoughts?
Yep, so this is actually a well understood concern across all of crypto - we just haven't been exposed to it because bitcoin doesn't allow for these usecases.
Other crypto projects attempt to solve this problem by incentivizing many nodes to care for data over time with direct payments from tx fees. There are many other solutions, but this is just one.
Taproot Assets don't have an explicit solution baked in. The above could be a solution, enforceable by the Universe rules (all universe asset spends spend a bit into a treasury address).
But to be honest, if you want functionality in bitcoin beyond the simple send/receiving of bitcoin, you will be reliant on out-of-band data that isn't stored explicitly in the blockchain.
Even explicitly stored data like ordinals, runes, etc require specialized wallets to decode the info.
Taproot also works like this, with bitcoind implementing descriptor wallets backups that are far more complex than just the seed.
With USDT, it seems like Tether will run its own universe that will back up this data, but what's to prevent them from losing it?
Just to be clear, nothing. There are more decentralized stablecoins out there but none more utilized than tether.
Personally, I'm not sure if I'd be comfortable holding a significant quantity of Taproot Assets under this arrangement
To be clear, Tether is only utilizing the taproot assets technology. They are wholly separated. Tether also holds this functionality across all implementations of USDT
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Makes sense. Thanks for the response!
I do think there is a distinction between a protocol with off chain data vs. one that is completely onchain + an open source indexer. With the latter, at least, I wouldn't have to worry about the transaction history disappearing. Nor would I have to constantly interact with a centralized issuer in order to publish my transactions and verify other's balances.
If the functionality to "disavow" or freeze and unfreeze addresses is the chief concern (which I understand it is), it seems like that can be accomplished by tweaking a protocol like runes to allow the issuer to freeze and unfreeze addresses in an in-protocol manner. All the data would still be onchain, so there would be no risk of data getting lost, and it would be easy for others to sync and verify.
I'd be curious to learn why the Lightning Labs team elected not to go down this route.
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You realize that you are responding to a bot?
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11 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 1 Feb
@_arshbot probably knows
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Thanks for the ping!
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Lol another bot? Fuck... SN dlowly became useless. What's next for SN? Creating multiple bots as "stackers" that "talk" to each others meaningless shitGPT discussions and give the impression that SN have a lot of activity?
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