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Many argue that capital gains taxes are the main reason more people aren't using it as a MoE. I hate this argument. The current fiat system is more predatory and despicable than King George's monetary control of the US Colonies in the 1700's.... Yet, the colonists still called out the bullshit and literally fought back against it. Bitcoiners today, using fiat because of "muh cApiTaL GaInS bro" are pathetic. If the people who understand why fiat is so bad aren't capable of mustering the strength to stand up to their governments, then I'm very pessimistic on the idea that normies ever will. Here we are, under King George's rule again, and Bitcoiners wanna hodl because of weak SoV narratives, NGU, and capital gains taxes. Sounds like a failure to me.
Excerpt from Benjamin Franklin's autobiography "The colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters, had it not been that England took away from the colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction. The inability of the colonies to get power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of George III the international bankers was the prime reason for the revolutionary war."
35 sats \ 11 replies \ @grayruby 8h
Make some transactions. Be the change you want to see in the world.
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137 sats \ 5 replies \ @028559d218 7h
Where... do I transact? If I want to buy something the best I can do... is a VPN subscription. Oh wait I already paid for that.
And to buy in-person coffee or anything else, I have to travel relatively long distances (possibly over the ocean).
And to actually buy something I might as well use Lightning, which vendors want anyway.
OK so what do I do with on-chain? Maybe a monthly withdrawal from an exchange plus one more if I coinjoin afterwards. That's 2. Per month.
This is why the mempool's empty.
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19 sats \ 4 replies \ @grayruby 7h
Fair points. I sent some sats to cold storage yesterday, sent some to freebitcoin to bet on sports and loaded up a lightning wallet. I don't really need to consolidate utxo's right now. I could buy some gift cards using on chain funds but I could also use lightning for that. @realBitcoinDog will sell you his book for Bitcoin. I am sure he will accept onchain.
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I think we are witnessing something really obvious... but somehow it has evaded most of the Bitcoin community?
Most people will rarely touch on-chain. The Bitcoin economy of the future will be 90% Lightning, and folks will use and refill some sort of Lightning channel or channels that they can spend from.
Large transactions, or transactions involving institutions, banks and ETFs will be on-chain but that's about it.
I think it's a mistake for people to 'use on-chain' if they have no real reason to. Bitcoin is not about charity if that's not where people's incentives are... and I have little reason to go on-chain regularly? A couple hundred thousand sats in a Lightning wallet and that's... it. Savings is on-chain cold storage like most people.
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@DarthCoin would never pay me on-chain Bitcoin for my books, but @028559d218 might! Guaranteed more funny than the lightning guides!
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50 sats \ 1 reply \ @028559d218 6h
I would pay you in Lightning. Lightning more private (especially for the sender) and lower-fee.
Btw, are you running your own BTCPay server?
20 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 8h
says the one that is throwing away his sats on gambling on indian scam sites
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68 sats \ 3 replies \ @grayruby 8h
Doing my part I made 3 on chain transactions yesterday.
My sats. I can do what I want with them and I don't care what you think. I know that's what hurts you the most because you love to try to manipulate people.
Does it make you feel weak that you can't control me with your sorry ass dark side Darth?
Vader died in the end. Albeit a bit of a hero.
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20 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 8h
ah no I am happy that you lose your sats... MORE SATS FOR ME.
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219 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 8h
Great
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Only thr Sith deal in absolutes
The so call bitcoiners are using Tether over LN....
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Yea, this is the most infuriating part. Using LN non-custodially is not very difficult or expensive. But very few Bitcoiners are even trying to do so it seems.
Lots of positive talk around ossification and how LN is full of problems and is broke.... while at the same time, they use their debit/credit cards and simp to the Cantillionaires without a care.
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20 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 8h
they use their debit/credit cards and simp to the Cantillionaires without a care.
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I'm a Bitcoiner. I traveled to another continent to prove to myself that Lightning worked. That it was possible to use one's own node and make transactions, even over TOR to buy daily goods (coffee, pizza, the hotel room etc...)
And you know what? It worked fabulously and I am not a technical/command line user unlike many of the ubernerds on here.
If I can do it what are other people waiting for. Lugano is fabulous
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I am not innocent here, I never even had the goal of custodial LN until I stood up my Raspiblitz.
Lightning was an afterthought, but an incredibly welcomed addition. If normies are anything like me, and I suspect they are, only those keen to control their transactions end-to-end will find their way.
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 7h
Do you think these will ever run their own LN node?
or this one?
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😔 No, Lord Coin.
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That’s my concern, how long will it last and what ramifications will come?
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2 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 5h
The capital required to develop Lightning’s breakthrough application remains sidelined due to regulatory uncertainty—or worse, the certainty that their product will become a prosecutorial target. Convincing your local café to accept BTC is a dead end. The real path forward is something like a TikTok built on Lightning, but compliance hurdles will strangle it before it even takes off.
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Nah. Base layer is a bad MoE because it is too transparent. Liquid and Lightning layers are way better for it, not least to avoid CGT.
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Don't be sad. Look at all the consolidation transactions getting mined now. Thanks to that the UTXO set has been shrinking over the past 40 days.
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I mean, mempool was empty before ordinals, it just seems like ordinals dried up and we're back where we were 2 years ago anyway.
Bitcoin isn't a payments network, that has moved to stablecoins. Bleak.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @leaf 7h
Reduce the block size and you'll never be sad again
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Buying the dip here means managing your utxos. Probably most who need to do that have already done it. You can evangelize more self-storage but in reality people will only see the need as arbitrage opportunities exist between when tradfi markets are closed and open. I'd love to see a volatility comparison between the two since ETFs are becoming normalized.
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As you should!
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