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291 sats \ 14 replies \ @Murch 23h \ on: Are humans responsible for climate change? To what degree? AskSN
I’ll take what appears to be the contrarian position in this forum: yes, human activity is the main cause of climate change.
hide your wallets, someone wants to tax you.
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Let's say that's true. To what extent do you think the climate is changing? Is it catastrophic in your opinion?
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Average global temperature has increased by over 1.25°C in the past fifty years, and we have ample evidence that this has been enough to affect weather and wind systems, and affect ocean currents as well as increasing extreme weather incidents. TBH, before I moved to the US, I wasn’t even aware that anyone seriously doubted this—it’s almost unanimous scientific consensus with no serious institutions holding contrarian opinions.
I sincerely believe that climate change will severely impact the quality of life in most regions of the planet in the next 30–50 years unless humanity musters a staunch response to it.
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I sincerely believe that climate change will severely impact the quality of life in most regions of the planet in the next 30–50 years unless humanity musters a staunch response to it.
I have good news! Your hypothesis of global warming was already proven wrong using the scientific method:
UN scientists in 1989 shared your theory that global warming would "severely impact the quality of life", but it turned out false. No nations were "wiped off of the face of the earth" in the year 2000 like the scientists foretold.
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I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that that predictions are not in the process of coming true. The article describes what a temperature increase of 3-7°C would do, and we're at +1.25°C.
We have had unprecedented droughts in Europe and North America, an uptick in wildfires, hurricanes, and floods. The Maldives have experienced erosion in 90% of their country and are spending half of their national budget on combatting the effects of rising sea levels, we're seeing increased desertification and exhaustion of ground water in other parts of the world. So, the predictions seem directionally correct, if perhaps not completely accurate in magnitude.
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The UN did not predict "unprecedented droughts" and they did not predict "an uptick in wildfires, hurricanes, and floods". The UN's hypothesis was that nations would be "wiped off of the face of the earth".
Why didn't you mention the benefits of a warmer planet? If you can't defend the UN's falsified hypothesis, then you should at least steelman how humanity gains from a warmer climate.
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It seems silly to me to reject the scientific consensus on basis of a cherry-picked sensationally phrased prediction in a newspaper article from 36 years ago not having come to pass. If you read the rest of the article, you see the desertification and droughts right there mentioned next to it.
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The chemtrails do not affect the amount of sunlight coming to the earth, therefore, it is ok to unload all of China’s fly ash into the atmosphere of the world and poison everything with the heavy and light metals in it. Aluminum is especially, bad for anything living, but never mind, the temp went up 1.25 degrees, especially when you measure it next to the runways where jets are taking off and landing at high intervals.
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