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100 sats \ 18 replies \ @Jon_Hodl 22 Mar \ on: Easy self-hosting of a basic ecommerce store that accepts bitcoin? AGORA
There isn’t one. I’ve been looking for years.
Currently the best way to sell products natively for bitcoin is Geyser and it’s not really an ecommerce platform.
That's crazy to me. It seems like such an obvious thing to build. It's the one thing we all should be doing with internet money - running our own stores.
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I totally agree but it’s really difficult. Running a BTCPay Server on clearnet will only doxx you if you run it locally and then you still have to manage channel liquidity and everything.
A buddy of mine bought an XYZ domain name and uses that to receive payments to his own pay server but it’s a lot of work and he’s 5+ years down the rabbit hole.
Even after all these years, there’s still no easy way to run your own bitcoin store.
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Yes true, but why are people obsessed to receive directly on the node? We are using coinos as proxy to send/receive LN sats, then if receiving threshold is reached move it onchain leaving a reserve amount for future zaps and general expenses.
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Running things locally is both a privacy and security concern.
Coinos can probably see all of your payments (and maybe custodies them too?) which means you might as well be using Coinbase or something
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Exactly. When bitcoin is $1m per coin, how much will criminals pay for a database of customer addresses that bought a bitcoin shirt on some Shopify store in 2025? The bigger the honey pot, the more bears you attract. Self-hosting this stuff reduces certain threats and allows a good merchant to delete the data.
why are people obsessed to receive directly on the node?
Because trust comes with tradeoffs. In the case where you're running a store via a custodian, not only are you trusting the custodian with your money and privacy, you're forcing your customers to trust the custodian with their privacy should it leak (which it inevitably will via lightning address, invoice descriptions, etc).
Also, even if you don't care about the amount you're storing with custodians, should they disappear you will be ill-equipped to self-host because no tools will exist because everyone who might build and use them were shamed for being "obsessed" with the inevitable.
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Now we are talking! Data retention is something we cared about since the beginning of setting up online the agora shop.
For the inevitability of custodian disappearing at some point, well that's part of the game. In our case, we could not find better solution for now. Definitely interested to explore more BTCpay server, I see it easily implemented with woocommerce a and enable the collection of buyers' information for shipping in a safe and self-hosted way.
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