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The only way for NgU to work is for people to hold their keys.
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Example of what gets GhostofStoney worked up:
Celsius now holds over 135,000 $BTC #9304
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Knowing my luck, it would be a far greater risk for me to hold it myself. Too many opportunities to fuck up lol
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You can lead a horse to water, ...
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you can give a horse a keypair, but you can’t make them not lose it…
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bitcoiners be like if you don’t have your own ISP, solar electrical grid, well water, butcher barn, and 5 acres of crops… ngmi
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I use a number of custodial services. For example, my SN wallet is custodial.
If the amount in it exceeded $10 or whatever, I might transfer most of that balance to something that isn't as easily compromised (e.g., get my twitter account, you got my SN balance ... by simply logging in to SN using it and withdrawing).
I use BlueWallet as my LN wallet. I might have a balance up to $50 or $100 there, before I might transfer to something that isn't as risky to carry around.
But for stacking larger amounts, there's no way I'm letting Kraken, or whomever, sit on those. Do I trust Kraken? More than I do most other exchanges, for example, but an exchange is not the right place for holding my bitcoin.
ColdCard, or some other hardware wallet (with secure seed storage) is the right method -- at least for any amounts I might wish to secure. And for larger amounts, there are vault methods with multisig and such.
There's literally no good reason to leave funds on an exchange beyond what's going to be used for trading in the immediate term (e.g., number of hours, or maybe a few days).
And there's sooooo much history proving to us that leaving bitcoin with a custodian, or lending it out, or leveraging it, ... are great ways to reduce your bitcoin holdings down to near zero.
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ColdCard, or some other hardware wallet (with secure seed storage) is the right method -- at least for any amounts I might wish to secure. And for larger amounts, there are vault methods with multisig and such.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but is this like putting money in a mattress? I personally know two dudes that got their precious metal stolen this way. One guy beat to a pulp as well.
And there's sooooo much history proving to us that leaving bitcoin with a custodian, or lending it out, or leveraging it, ... are great ways to reduce your bitcoin holdings down to near zero.
Sounds kinda like the arguments against nuclear power. Because of Chernobyl we have to ban it all. Seems like the more legitimate exchanges are becoming more legitimate all the time. Eg. https://www.gemini.com/legal/user-agreement#section-digital-asset-insurance
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I’m surprised that anyone into Bitcoin enough to be on SN doesn’t actually own their own Bitcoin.
Once you understand the implications,,you MUST hold your own keys to rest easy.
Even the now-shitcoiner antonopolous knows “not your keys not your coins”
I personally know two dudes that got their precious metal stolen this way. One guy beat to a pulp as well.
  • Plausible deniability. Trezor has had this for a long time.
  • Multisig. 2 of 3 using Electrum, for example, has been relatively simple and available for over a half decade now. You can't divulge what you do not possess (the second key).
Now we have things like Coinkite's TapSigner, making multisig even easier.
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The Canadian bank account confiscations have got Stoney repeating himself:
Get your bitcoin off exchanges you stupid fucks
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Stated a bit more diplomatically, ...
Don't let any crypto exchanges or services get away with fractional reserving your coins.
Regularly withdraw from the platform to your own wallet.
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For those in the back who might not have heard Stoney earlier:
Coinbase joins @wef.
FBI is constructing a cryptocurrency CONFISCATION unit.
Our senile dipshit of a president has a treasury-concocted EO ready.
If you still have your bitcoin on any exchange I have one question for you:
A R E Y O U F U C K I N G R E T A R D E D?
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