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The SPAC is still pending. But investors can get access to Twenty-One Inc. by getting shares of Cantor Equity Parters (CEP) today. And since Jack’s announcement it is up 216%!
Question is do you buy shares now? Or do you wait for the dump (like what happened to Fold!)
186 sats \ 4 replies \ @grayruby 13h
I would definitely wait for the hype to die down. SPACs take time to merge. I am sure you will get a better entry.
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Yeah learned that with fold for sure. Going to just waitlist it
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Or... just buy spot Bitcoin
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @grayruby 13h
Sure but that wasn't the question.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @j7hB75 13h
Or... just buy spot Bitcoin
👆️ This.
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That is very high risk because it can dump as much within a very single time. So investors should have to be very careful
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94 sats \ 0 replies \ @flat24 12h
The liquidity squeech is coming ... the green rocket is close 🚀💚
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Mallers is gonna challenge the supremacy of Strategy. This will be kind of a competition very soon.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @sudonaka 3h
Ok so first off even Mike Saylor says you should just buy bitcoin in self-custody, stocks are for wall st gamblers and money changers. But IF you have some reason that you have money LOCKED up in wall st (like a 401k, not robinhood) where you cannot remove it and buy real bitcoin with---
Then you should understand what is going on with these "bitcoin companies" before you play the casino game. NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE.
Let's break it down into some "math", with a couple examples after:
"Sats per share": Total Bitcoins held outright / (divided by) Total shares outstanding
"Bitcoin company value": (Total bitcoins held outright / Shares outstanding) + premium
"bitcoin company premium": The value of the company perceived by the market that exists separate to its holdings of bitcoin.
This "premium" can be referenced by another metric on bitcointreasuries.net: "mNAV" For example daddy MSTR currently sits at 1.885x over the value of it's bitcoin, showing that the market is bullish on it's ability to acquire additional bitcoin. You can also use this metric as a warning for reversals, for example the peak mNAV reached last year was 3.3 which flashed the peak price $437 of MSTR in November 2024. The "sats per share" at that point was about 160,000, while today with the stock price at $350, the sats per share is 200,000. MSTR has continued acquiring bitcoin while the stock price has declined, setting it up for another potential run up past 2.0 mNAV if market conditions allow.
What causes a change in mNAV? The company taking actions like buying bitcoin or issuing (printing) more shares. + You and me figuring this out and making bets about what we think it is going to be in the future by trading the stock.
Look through the charts after clicking on each company name. https://bitcointreasuries.net/entities/microstrategy
Now example of CEP/XXI:
XXI says they are currently at 11,783 satoshi per share
This is based on 31,500 bitcoin, divided by 267.32 million shares.
Now, if you apply the above principles you would input the current price of bitcoin to get the expected share price. bitcoin = 95,000 267.32M shares of company with 31,500 btc = $11.19 (1.0 mNAV)
But wait, there's more:
ALWAYS READ THE ACTUAL SEC FILINGS. These are legal disclosures required by US Jurisdiction and are arguably the reason why the world considers the US Stock Market to be "safe". If you don't read the real legal documents yourself, you will be lead to the slaughter.
First thing to investigate is WHAT VALUE these "CEP" shares are going to be. The disclosure says 1 to 1 with XXI. QUOTE: "continuing as the surviving entity (the “SPAC Merger”), and with Company shareholders receiving one share of Pubco Class A common stock for each Class A ordinary share"
Also important this document we can see that there is a scheme involving Tether to acquire an additional 10,500 bitcoin, so the total bitcoin at merger time (creating the entity XXI as a public company) will be exactly 42,000 bitcoin.
QUOTE: "Tether has also agreed to purchase additional Bitcoin that it will sell at the closing to Pubco for additional shares of Pubco in an amount equal to 10,500 less any Bitcoin contributed by Equity PIPE Investors (as defined below),"
What this means TO ME is that the new company XXI will have 42,000 bitcoin 267.32M regular stock bitcoin price = $93k
Our equation can be updated as such: (bitcoin) 42k * (bitcoin price) $93k = $3.9 Billion company marketcap / 267.32M (shares) = (stock price, mNAV 1.0) $14.61
Now what if just maybe Wall st took 2 days to decide that the mNAV "PREMIUM" should be exactly the same as MSTR at 1.8x ?
= $26.30 CEP current price
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The "bitcoin holding price" of FLD stock (1.0 mNAV) is currently $2.95 Current FLD price of $3.96 = 1.34 mNAV
So yeah it could get worse. Especially when you look at the largest US miner MARA which is sitting at 1.09 mNAV (all its mining equipment is not even worth barely over the value of its bitcoin? might be some debt problems involved here) NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE
I now stay away from Wall St bitcoin miners personally. Get a Bitaxe for yourself and solo mine instead.
REMEMBER THAT COMPANIES CAN PRINT AS MANY SHARES AS THEY WANT OR MESS UP AND RUIN THEMSELVES AND YOU ALONG WITH THEM. YOU ARE PUTTING YOUR MONEY INTO THE CONTROL OF SOMEONE ELSE. COMPANIES ARE NOT LIKE BITCOIN.
But don't feel bad, I bought some GRIID (GRDI) when Ten31 (Matt and Marty from rabbit hole recap) dumped that VC on retail and it crashed hard then it was sold off to Cleanspark.
DO NOT TRUST BITCOINERS. Verify everything.
Don't trust anyone except Jesus Christ. God Bless
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @j7hB75 3h
Mixed feelings.
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Looks like someone slapped three extra zeros on there by mistake! Lol.
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