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385 sats \ 11 comments \ @metadavid 7h lightning

I've joined the OCEAN mining pool, but my mining operation is very small, so it's much more feasible for me to get paid over the Lightning Network than directly in Bitcoin (the latter requires a minimum payout of 0.01 BTC).

I need a wallet that supports BOLT12 Offers. The issue I'm running into is that most of the options I've seen so far require self-hosting. Normally, I'd be fine with that, but — long story short — I can't right now because I'm running a pruned Bitcoin node and won't be able to set up a full node until the end of May.

Anyway, I see a lot of "coming soon" announcements, but is there anything available now where I don't have to self-host and can get up and running quickly and easily? The key requirement is that it must support BOLT12 Offers. :)

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90 sats \ 7 replies \ @OT 7h

I think coinos is probably the easiest at the moment. Phoenix has bolt12 but there's something that doesn't match up and so won't work at the moment (I think it was the description).

Best if you run your own Core LN node, but that might be a big commitment for a small payout.

26 sats \ 6 replies \ @metadavid OP 6h

Does Coinos support the signing of configuration messages? I couldn't find that there...

Yeah, I think I'm going to go the Core LN node route. I'm running a Lightning Node on my Umbrel right now, but from what I see, I'd need to run a Core LN node. I have a commitment to keep my channels open until late May, and to your point, yeah, it would be a big commitment on many levels to switch over right now. I'm kind of fine making a tradeoff for something a little more turnkey, in the mold of Coinos or Alby, just to get things going for now until May when I'll have more options available.

40 sats \ 5 replies \ @OT 6h

Does Coinos support the signing of configuration messages? I couldn't find that there...

No, you can sign an onchain address in Sparrow or Electrum wallet. You just need to paste that into the bolt12 section on Oceans website. Then the output you paste in Coinos.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @metadavid OP 6h

So if I understand correctly:

-- Get Bolt12 Offer from Coinos -- Sign in Sparrow or Electrum (I have to study how that works, and I might be mis understanding that) -- Take output and paste into OCEAN

Thanks for your help!

50 sats \ 1 reply \ @supratic 4h

For what I know, the issue is that you are trying to place a BOLT12 invoice that is generated by a different wallet (coinos in this case). You'll be maybe able to sign the message anyhow, but for OCEAN will be a mismatch because the BOLT12 invoice should be signed with the same wallet that generated the btc1 address used as mining username.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @metadavid OP 4h

Yup, that's pretty much what I'm seeing now. Thanks for confirming!

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 6h

Probably best to simply follow their instructions and click on the wallet that you'll use:

https://ocean.xyz/docs/lightning

I used Sparrow to sign an address. For bolt12 Coinos worked for me so it should for you too.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @metadavid OP 4h

Yeah, I've read the docs, but it doesn't seem like using a BOLT12 offer from Coinos and then signing with Sparrow is working.

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20 sats \ 1 reply \ @Filiprogrammer 6h

You do not necessarily have to run your own full node to run a Lightning node. LND configured with bitcoin.node=neutrino will fetch onchain data from other Bitcoin nodes via compact filters.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @metadavid OP 6h

I'm currently running a Lightning node with channels open that I need to keep open until late May.

My understanding was that I could use Core LN and get Bolt12 Offer support...but I'm not crazy about spinning up another node in addition to the one I already have, deploying more capital, connecting to more channels.

But my understanding of my suggestion could be incorrect, so could my limitations... :)

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @PictureRoom 35m

I think Coinos.io may be an option for you. I have my ocean linked to them via bolt12