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110 sats \ 1 reply \ @teemupleb 26 May
Started in a promising way but mid-way through starts shilling Monero as Bitcoin’s replacement
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 26 May
Bummer. It sounded like it might go that route.
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56 sats \ 0 replies \ @hasherstacker 25 May
Individuals using Bitcoin (real adoption) make Bitcoin stronger, than institutions holding Bitcoin (fiat mindset).
Hyperbitcoinization will happen when individuals NOT institutions or corporations, use Bitcoin without the fiat mindset.
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @LibertasBR 26 May
Shitcoin bullshit mixed with Monero supporter tears.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @Riberet 26 May
These types of websites keep me hopeful about the movement.
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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @028559d218 26 May
I read the whole thing and I have thoughts -
Anyone can use Bitcoin today any way they want. CoinJoin it, spend it, sell it, use it Non-Kyc... you name it. It's incredibly liquid and for 'real world' adoption by regular people, it has by far the biggest market with regard to things to buy for day-to-day. To live on and use. "Wall Street adoption" does not change that.
Yes global money. In a 'global money' system there will be drug dealers and rogue nations (like North Korea) but there will be Moms and Dads and the 'good guys' too who just want to save so that their assets don't get inflated away.
Anyone can use Bitcoin peer-to-peer today, there are a number of platforms that provide safe and reliable p2p exchange (Robosats, HodlHodl, Bisq etc) and the ETFs do not prevent people from using Bitcoin. In fact... the higher the price of Bitcoin the greater the liquidity in Lightning Channels but I digress...
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So of the world underground drug economies... what % is actually using 'any' cryptocurrencies?
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Do you think that Bitcoin (or crypto 'in general') is just a digital currency or digital cash? If there are only 21 million Bitcoins for 100 years... what incentive is there to spend Bitcoin if you have melting government-issued cash on hand?
I am still looking for places to spend Monero, where entire cities towns and villages have adopted it for payments and day to day commerce... Bitcoin has some of these places (in Switzerland for example or places in Central, South America). Monero IIUC has none of them.
Without getting ahead of my skis... if Monero had even a 1% chance of an unidentified inflation bug... could it be trusted, tradable, hedgeable global money for the world? I... don't think so. The easy verifiability of Bitcoin's supply although a tradeoff of transparency... means that when people save in it, big time they know exactly what they are getting. Even a small chance of an inflation bug in Monero (undetected) means that global economies won't trust it and that's a problem.
Still looking for places to spend Monero.
Governments are still going to be here, with or without Bitcoin. Bitcoin (or any cryptocurrency adopted worldwide) will and has in fact changed the world... however the idea that governments will disappear I don't agree with it is silly.
I mean... there's a lot of FOSS in Bitcoin right?
Why not have 'parallel economies' with things that... regular people actually want to use and buy? Like Steak n Shake? When you purchase things on the 'Dark Web' how do you really know who you are talking to?
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Any market of any size that attracts enough attention and capital... will have its speculative components. There is no way to separate use from speculation and 'the tourists'... that's why running a node and verifying transactions is so important...
Why? Whole entire economies can use Bitcoin and hedge government debt, borrowing, and risk against it. That way people can save, spend, and exercise their economic power in a way that can't be censored. What's wrong with that?
And go backwards, and not forwards?
Moonboys are 99/100 nearly broke altcoin investors. We ignore them and run nodes. They don't control the network most of they don't even hold keys.
Most moonboys are into alts and memes... not Bitcoin which is "too expensive".
On this we agree.
Yes the politicians don't care. But that's OK because we can use Bitcoin anyway. And if the MB are over-leveraged then they get recked.
Still don't see where any of this keeps someone running a node from using Bitcoin.
There are a lot of Bitcoiners... on Stacker News no? Are they pro-state?
What is this proprietary software the author is referring to?
We agree... parallel economies are ultimately the goal.
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @028559d218 26 May
I think a more nuanced way to think of cryptocurrency (or even Bitcoin) markets is of white, gray, and dark. All of these exist and co-exist... and they all need it other. Hence they all persist.
This is an oversimplification and is not true.
If the state had wanted to crush Bitcoin they should have done it 10 years ago. They didn't. Now look what happened? Bitcoin is an alternative (widely available for self-custody) as an alternative to government bonds and debt. If people "choose Bitcoin" instead of governments bonds then the State can't borrow and their economic power is reduced... is there any greater power than that?
Don't you think... this is a bit of an oversimplification?
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @028559d218 26 May
Saylor knows exactly what the boating accident is. He specifically referred to it in another video and laughed about it (in terms of how the bank can "tax that".) I think (although I could be wrong) that he tries to be careful in what he says.
With this I agree... Saylor's comments were extremely poor and correctly called out. I think he misspoke though... I am NOT defending him although anyone can make a mistake.
Yes what he said was wrong. However I personally don't believe he is a villain based on the totality of his comments and his demeanor.
Whether MSTR buys Bitcoin or they don't buy Bitcoin... it doesn't change how you use YOUR Bitcoin or what you do with it. So who cares what the 'stonks' people or Saylor do?
Every single person, rationally, to include the Monero people and folks on r/Monero wants to have greater purchasing power. This is just Human Nature. Saying otherwise... isn't telling the whole story.
So there are no in-person merchants and vendors who accept Bitcoin for goods or services?
How can something be money... if noone wants to actually save in it?
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @028559d218 26 May
With regard to 1) I disagree with this or at least it doesn't tell the whole story.
With 2)... so a 'tail emission' like in Monero because the on-chain demand is too low for miners... is the problem? So a tail emission is the answer? and 3) Monero people are really going to tell Bitcoiners that btc software is centralized? Really?
Who even develops for Monero source code? Where is the guthub (with lots of contributers)? Where are the vibrant passionate technical discussions? Who are the developers and what conferences are they speaking at so that we know who they are and what exactly they stand for??? Monero has no leg to stand on IMO when it comes to centralization.
Isn't Monero waiting for a hard-fork sometime in the next year... that will come eventually???
Don't you think it's a little more complicated than that?
Don't you think Saylor bankrolling the support of privacy software... would cause even more distrust of that software among the people who want to use it? Do you really think Saylor can go around talking up the uses and needs to Coinjoins and mixing? Really?
This really boils down to Bitcoin as a currency and I think a legitimate criticism... if there are only 21 million units and everyone wants one... what will they pay for one after all?
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @028559d218 26 May
There is only one cryptocurrency worth your (my) hardearned money and that is Bitcoin.
In other words to adopt an illiquid shitcoin with highly questionable privacy tech? I have actually read the Dread forums and there are serious real concerns about the anon set for XMR transactions. Not 1/16 but more like... 1/4 or even 1/2. If this is true it is a bad joke people would have better privacy with CoinJoins.
Do you really think that Cryptocurrency has to be all things to all people???
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @028559d218 26 May
What's really sad... is the good, well-intentioned people who HODLed monero for the last 8 years, and since 2017 Monero is the same price.
With less purchasing power due to inflation over the last 8 years. THAT is the sad story that makes XMR people upset. That Monero has nowhere near the adoption and liquidity of Bitcoin... obviously makes some XMR people upset/jealous/confused... hence the "no-adoption" non-sequitur that someone we can't and shouldn't expect "wide adoption" because it "doesn't work that way."
OK sure.
So basically... "my crypto" is so great... but it will never have global adoption? What?
I mean... all this stuff is already happening right? Have you seen the bond market this year???
Stranger things have happened.
I mean NOT LIKE THAT no... of course not. But I mean stranger things have happened.
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