Is lightning really private if the government can spy on you by installing malware on your devices? what are you thoughts?

Extremely creative artist! I wish you had higher resolution images in the post! Also, that's not Relativity, it's a crop of Ascending and Descending.

I hate the bugle because it's so good.

I don't think bernstein was charged for using the code, but for publishing it.

Here's another version to better suit your position. Person A drugs you, but person B asks you to go to the ATM, empty it out, and give them all the money. Did person B do anything wrong?

In a regular wallet the person transmitting the money is the person/people initiating a transaction. coinjoins make use of a coordinator. I made the point elsewhere, and repeat it here. There are many ways to launder money. In the TV show "Breaking Bad" they buy a car wash to launder money. The car wash was a registered business, paying taxes on claimed revenue, etc.

I'm happy to consider those two things separately, but I think the implication is that some code violates private property.

This is the first paragraph of the second charge.

someone's home.

I think you're confusing the way the charges relate to each other. There are many ways to launder money. The charges allege that the WAY they laundered money was by running an unlicensed money transmitter.

If I break into your house and find your bitcoin keys and then leave, not having taken anything, only memorizing your keys, has any crime, aside from entering, been committed? If I go home and load your private keys into my own software, and move all the bitcoin you had in that wallet?

You can't imagine any code that violates free speech? All code, no matter what it does, absolves its creators of culpability? If I created a virus that wrecked the power of a city, resulting in the death of thousands? That's free speech?

everything on computers is code and I think y'all are fixating on the wrong things in this story. The indictment clearly states that Samourai made millions of dollars worth of bitcoin in fees from running Whirlpool.

Samourai wallet operated a coinjoin coordinator, the service of which they provided for a fee.

I think it's the whirlpool that distinguishes Samourai in the document, and not the regular functionality of wallets, which I didn't notice mentioned at all.

good point! my fear is moving them for protection but actually stealing them from Satoshi.

i would send them to a safer address type to prevent people from stealing it in the future. or i wouldn't do anything at all. hard to say. maybe satoshi is alive and wants to use it some day

we don't have a free market. there are free market forces, but there are also government regulations and restrictions.

what kind of red-herring is this? Have I ever plugged batteries in to a battery charger supplied with AC power?

No in the USA. Not in most of Europe.