Cool.

Now the terms "custodial" or "non-custodial" are always put from the perspective of the service provider. You're custodial if you can, at any point in time run away with the money. You're non-custodial if that possibility simply does't exist.

As I understand here, you're non-custodial because you act as just any hop in the payment path.

So help me understand here, is this 100% non-custodial? I've seen one example of a p2p trading tool using hodl invoices p2plnbot, but as far as I understand there's a very short period of time in which the server is acting as a custodial of funds in there.

How is this setup different?

You're never going to be satisfied with the answers you get here because there simply are not cookie cutter granma-friendly procedure.

And the reason for that is simple: the government rushes to put hurdles in your way as soon as a good solution comes up. This is not something that can be solved with tech alone and it will always be hard to keep your privacy.

Another way of looking at it is that you're trying to find a seamless and private interface between decentralized perfect money (Bitcoin) and the legacy financial system, which is centralized and inefficient by design. You simply cannot square a circle.

I guess there are 2 different things here. We might be talking pass each other when we talk about non-kyc bitcoin. What is your objective?

Number 1 is easy, and you can do it by just following the steps we outlined above. As for number 2, yeah, it is hard. Specially considering that you cannot "undo" KYC. Once you've given that info it is out there. Best thing you can do it is sell (preferably at a loss) and then re-buy it in a P2P marketplace.

Depending on your jurisdiction this might be easier or harder. In Latin America we have some vibrant communities and there's little tracking effort (or capabilities) from our governments so I think it is safe to even do small (< 10K USD) P2P transactions using the banking system.

Why do you want to go to fiat first? do you want to purposefully have a sell event? If you do, then by all means, sell and then re-buy from a P2P lending platform like hodlhodl or localcryptos.

If you don't care about creating a sell event, then what is described here (going to a Bitcoin sidechain with confidential transactions + coinjoin) is an acceptable path IMO.

If you don't want to go through the hassle of jumping to a sidechain, you can go straight to coinjoin actually.

No, we need Bitcoin. "Crypto" is a distraction.

I've been getting non-kyc coins since ~2016. I don't think most of my clients care about tax as what I charge doesn't usually represent large invoices.

I could totally be working from a rural community (in fact that's a move I've been considering more lately).

And no, I wouldn't classify most of my clients as "hardcore Bitcoiners". In fact I'd think hardcore bitcoiners would probably not want to get rid of their sats. My clients usually get attracted by the 20% discount I offer if paid in BTC instead.