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I think this would happen a lot faster for everyone if Bitcoiners start ONLY accepting Bitcoin for their goods/services.

It needs to get easier for people to live on Bitcoin. That's when the real magic will happen.

Sure, we can use our earned fiat to buy Bitcoin. But that's not how we change the world.

Yup. Upper management is already botching this. They're firing too many people, thinking AI is going to be their panacea. In reality, AI will save them 20% on production costs over the next few decades, as you say. It's massive, yes, but it won't offset the damage they're doing by laying off entire segments of their workforce.

In the short-term, they're going to be surprised by the way they can no longer deliver products on time after leaning too heavily into AI and offshoring.

In the meantime, developers like me will refuse to come back to work for dollars. If they aren't paying in Bitcoin, I will refuse them.

There are some serious issues with Bitcoin.

But... Lightning is not one of them. Development is advancing fast. New deployments in 2025 make Lightning MUCH better than it was just 12 months ago.

The real issue is people's expectations. People thought Lighting was going to be a panacea.... a perfect solution. But it is not.... and it will not be. It is just another layer in the stack... another tool in our tool-belt.

Lightning will be the glue that holds other layers together. But at least now, small merchants have the ability to use it in a self-custodial way, if they choose to. It gives us freedom, compared to what we used to have under the central banking elite. It's amazing, for people who are willing to learn. And for those who aren't, there are amazing Layer-3's such as Fedimints which use Lighting in the backend.

That sounds awful. I'm sorry. Are you doing okay now?

How many of these accept and hold Bitcoin on their balance sheets?

I mean.... Bitcoin is "money", right?

So, are you focused on creating a "Bitcoin circular economy" in your community, or is it just a group of nerds who like talking about macro-economics?

Did you mean to say "What does this mean for the fiat exchange-rate of Bitcoin?"

I think most of the "problems" come from political propaganda.

Everything has pros and cons, and comes with a risk/reward analysis. ALL energy sources on the planet come with negative trade-offs. Political propaganda ignores the tradeoffs and just focuses on whichever pro or con supports their narrative.

What are the numbers for "reclaiming and recycling" parts from coal, fossil-fuels, nuclear, or solar? Way more difficult to recycle that shit. Wildlife is negatively affected by all of them as well.

Remember how brainwashed society was in the 90's about how nuclear power would create mutant animals? Absolutely nuts.... which is how you sound, talking about birds and cetaceans.

Nuclear power is absolutely amazing, and it was suppressed for decades because of political propaganda. Don't let the same thing happen to wind. That said, nuclear is 10x more important than wind. It is base-load, wind is not. But we should not demonize wind in the meantime. It's pretty damn good, with very minimal impact compared to the alternatives. If I see people trying to use wind as base-load, then I will speak out against them.... but adding small amounts of wind to grids around the world is very smart.

This post makes me so happy.

I'm in the same boat. I was laid off from my corporate job recently. I refuse to work for dollars from this point forward.

Sure, I have the privilege of being able to be selective because I have savings. But I still expect it to be a difficult thing. I'm going out of my way because I believe fiat is the most evil thing on this planet.

I will be working for Bitcoin ONLY from now on. I buy from merchants who accept and hold Bitcoin, and I boycott those who only accept fiat.

If only 10% of us did this, the world would change for the better.

There are very few avenues, because there are very few of us demanding it. Bitcoiners today appear to be fiat-maxis when closely observed. If we lived what we preach, we would inconvenience ourselves in the pursuit of ending fiat, the way OP is.

@Jimmyhoneyalchemist said, "I’m a finally aligning with my higher self, my true self and I have never felt more free." (this gave me chills, btw. I feel like Jimmy and I just became best friends.)

Strategic placement of wind-power can be a game-changer in many areas. It's just a tool in the energy toolbox. Just like Bitcoin. It's not a panacea, but it's a game changer when deployed correctly.

What's your beef with wind power?

Yea....

I'm very familiar with the excuses Bitcoiners make for continuing to live comfortably within the fiat system instead of fighting it.

Of course, there is a lot of truth to those excuses. They aren't wrong.... you aren't wrong. But I think those excuses are causing us to be too complacent.... too confident in Bitcoin's future.... ossifying too soon.... and generally too comfortable with fiat while larping about how bad it is.

If Bitcoin is not directly threatening the fiat system, then it is a shitcoin.

I have no problem with Bitcoin going "mainstream". In fact, that is the whole damn point.

But I have a HUGE problem with NGU going mainstream, and fiat feeling zero pressure from Bitcoin.

Bitcoin's success is meaningless, if it doesn't result fiat's timely failure. Bitcoin hasn't gone "mainstream".... it appears to be doing nothing at all, and that's the problem.

"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks". <- This was supposed to be the goal, not whatever is happening in our culture now.

Those were the best of times.

I didn't have one until Steak'nShake started accepting Bitcoin.

Now they are number one, with nothing to compare them to.

wow, how innovative of them! I wonder where they came up with such an incredible idea. Do other exchanges offer such a feature?

Welcome to 2025, Fold.

Exactly.

On the other hand, if Bitcoin is being used widely for commerce, it would be the money everyone runs to during a Black-Swan.

Ultimately, it needs to actively threaten the current system. If it is not, it is failing.

I'm conflicted about whether it is threatening fiat in a sustainable way.

Well, I agree in principle. But Bitcoin isn't really disrupting much these days, is it?

And I say that as a staunch supporter of Jeff Booth's thesis about how it's going to happen.

Bitcoin might eventually change everything. But why are today's Bitcoiners so content living within the fiat system. They appear to have no desire to really change anything. They talk about change, but continue working for dollars, spending dollars, and denominating their life in dollars.

The prevailing fiat system SHOULD be provoking us into violence, not peaceful apathy.

So... wen moon?

/s