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841 sats \ 11 comments \ @anon 11 Jun lightning

Question: If someone uses Zeus with embedded node and wants to use it exclusively for daily spending via lighting. How to achieve max. privacy, meaning make sure that nobody can link all these payments?

Is it general better to open once a bigger unannounced channel and once all the liquidity is pushed out to close it and open a new channel?

Oor would it be better to keep this channel ideally open for as long as possible and just push liquidity from time to time back via lighting (with wrapped invoices)?

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635 sats \ 9 replies \ @DarthCoin 11 Jun

I would try to do this (and please read first here from their documentation page):

open only Simple Taproot Channels
open private (unannounced) channels and specifically "buy" inbound channels from Olympus or any other LSP (that will also obfuscate which UTXO was used, not yours)
keep as much is possible those channels open. Longer you keep - more sats you can pass through a single channel. Remember that your "footprint" onchain is only when a channel is closed. So for example, you have a 1M sats channel, and when you close it, you end up with a remaining UTXO of 10k sats, as "change", but in fact you passed through that channel 100M sats. Any channel now can be refilled with integrated swaps in Zeus. Once you deplete a channel, refill it using a swap.
open 2-3 channels with different LSPs and use MPP (multi-part payment) option in Zeus. That means all your payments will be spread in multiple shards on multiple paths (when is possible). Here you have some options: #890432 and https://github.com/ZeusLN/zeus/discussions/2265
ideal size of a channel in Zeus embedded is around 1-3M sats. Usually must be seized around your usual spending habits to be able to cover enough of your regular payments for a certain period of time.

And read more about how to use Zeus from my 2 important guides:

Also here I explained more stuff: https://darth-coin.github.io/merchants/operating-ln-as-merchant-en.html

And yes, Zeus wrapped invoice is a good tool too !

0 sats \ 8 replies \ @BlokchainB 11 Jun

Will this help with failed payments? Sometimes my payments fail using the embedded node. And sometimes I can’t find a round to receive payments to it as well

92 sats \ 4 replies \ @nikotsla 11 Jun

Most of these issues are related with the fee you want to pay, sadly, right now, the media ppm is high to reach well connected nodes. Are you using a good fee? 100ppm is low, 1500ppm must work, 3000ppm it's almost a guaranty.

In "theory" 3 good channels and MPP just works, be sure the node is in sync before make the payment.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @BlokchainB 11 Jun

Yeah I only got one channel and that is to Olympus

70 sats \ 2 replies \ @nikotsla 12 Jun

I know it's a capital expensive action, but... if you are going to do an extensive use of LN, it's good to open at least 2 more channels.

94 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 12 Jun

I was about to say the same.

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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB 12 Jun

Yeah I run multiple ln nodes just looking for ways to optimize my Zeus embedded node thanks for the help!

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46 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 11 Jun

Read:

1 sat \ 1 reply \ @BlokchainB 11 Jun

Should I open a PR:

ZEUS currently doesn't have a swap service, but we're considering launching one in the future.