Even as a young man I learned that men will disappoint you. All humans. We are deeply flawed. Even the best of us have pride and arrogance or other flaws that lead us to disappoint. I've seen so many people walk away from their "faith" because it was never in the faith but in men.

Even if you aren't religious this is a mistake we all have the temptation to make. We write things off because of flawed men, leaders, and adherents. I've never seen a movement led by perfect men. I don't think I ever will. Both Saylor and Peterson have created value and I respect them both for the positives they have created. There is plenty I disagree with between the two of them but its foolish to just ignore people like this. We can learn from people even when they are wrong (something Peterson teaches). Its very true and its stuck with me.

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I don't hear much about JBP these days bc the storm around him is maddening and I avoid it, but I'd assume he still has a fervent base and the crossover appeal would be significant.

I never listened to Jordan Peterson much, and I have avoided listening to Saylor for a few years now. For some reason I did listen to this one, and I have to admit it kept my attention. Saylor had become so predictable and boring, rehashing the same lines, that he was good as background noise when I needed a nap. This was more compelling. Not compelling enough for me to buy mstr, mind you.

Honestly, I thought it'd be way worse. It's basically all about Saylor's past, and they don't even get to Bitcoin 'til the last 25 minutes. Still, I'd totally give it 6-7 stars!

My father told me this as a teenager.

I know many stackers are very ideological and I share many if not most of those ideologies but I often see stackers fall into a trap. They allow their ideological position to drive them away from hearing ideas that don't align with their box of ideas. Both of these men have valuable knowledge they drop. Don't allow your confidence in being right limit the expansion of your mind. If nothing else, hearing ideas from people you disagree with will sharpen you thinking on things you already know.

It is all very well but Saylors argument ignores the elephant in the room. His wealth, and everyones wealth in fact, is reliant to a significant degree upon the strength and dominance of the nation state in which they live. Nation states use fiat money to expand and project their power. Fiat money has enabled the USA, Saylors nation of residence, to sustain its global resource and protocol hegemony.The most potent global protocol in the possession of the US is the USD and its associated mechanisms such as the SWIFT trade payments protocol. If Saylor believes that his wealth can be stored in Bitcoin and that by doing so he can avoid the consequences of the decline of the USD, he is certainly mistaken. Holding your wealth in Bitcoin directly reduces the ability of the US government to project its power and resist the advances of and challenges coming from adversaries. Yes Bitcoin provisions a superior form of money if looked at from the perspective of an individual and assuming that that individuals wealth and security is not dependent upon to a very large degree upon the citizenship and jurisdiction of that individual, but that is a false assumption.

I will probably give it a listen but like you I am less interested in listening to either of these guys than I used to be.

I'm sinking an hour and a half into this, and if it's a bust, you're zapping me 10k sats! Ahaahh