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I am not a conference enjoyoor

I have been to two other Bitcoin conferences in the past. In 2024, I attended Bitcoin++ in Austin because @niftynei graciously asked if I wanted to sell my posters there, and I went to Bitcoin 2025 in Las Vegas to meet up with someone I was working with.
They were wildly different experiences. Bitcoin++ was wonderful: first time I met @ek, I got to hang out with @plebpoet and a few other stackers, and my kids came along. Bitcoin 2025 was unpleasant: really huge, felt like a casino (perhaps because it was located in one), hard to meet people.

Tabconf is like a big friendly meetup

Never having been to Tabconf before, I was very pleasantly surprised! The conference took place in a small exhibition hall. There was one large room with lots of tables where people could hang out, and then two rooms for talks.
Tabvonf7 had a very chill vibe. The main room with the tables usually had a good number of people milling about -- so much so that I was only reminded about the various talks next door by the applause when they ended. It never felt lonely. It certainly didn't feel like people were there trying to sell anything.
The Bitcoiners I met impressed me with their curiosity, friendliness, and thoughtfulness. I learned a lot about Bitcoin and met people who were interested in doing the same. There wasn't really any discussion of Michael Saylor, the ETFs, or even the Knots v Core thing...or most of the other things that seem such a big part of Bitcoin discourse on X and reddit. Turns out the Bitcoiners in real life are concerned with learning about Bitcoin and trying to use it.

Stacker News in Real Life

@BlokchainB's idea to have a place for Stackers to meet up in real life (#1220292) was brilliant.
It may seem obvious, but before this last week, I would have said meeting up in real life isn't that important: I like meetups, but I have always assumed conferences were a kind of frivolous extra.
But hanging out with stackers at Tabconf was one of the highlights of this whole year. A stacker's presence on SN is like a little window into who they are, but meeting a stacker in person is like walking up to their house and seeing where the window fits in the whole abode.
Bitcoin already selects for a unique group of people. Lightning users are a subset, and perhaps a concentrated version of this and stackers are subset of that -- while this does mean there isn't stackers aren't a huge group of people, it also means if you are a stacker you are pretty likely to have A LOT in common with any other stacker. It makes it easy to start a friendship.
I am very thankful to @BlokchainB, @k00b, and all the stackers who showed up! Stackers are very cool people and I'm grateful to be able to count a number of them as my friends. I'm also pretty impressed with @tidwell -- that's one heck of a great conference you put on! Definitely plan on coming back next year.

What stands in the way of new stackers

I'd say 60% of the people had heard of Stacker News, but most of those had either stopped using their account or never created one in the first place. It's also possible there's a little bias in this because nobody likes to say "I've never heard of this thing."
In my efforts to onboard new users, I ran in to a new dynamic that I hadn't previously considered: there were a number of very serious and knowledgeable bitcoiners who were not lightning users. They don't have a problem with lightning, but just hadn't had an occasion to set up a node or use a lightning wallet.
In talking through the easiest way for them to onboard to SN, I often ended up proposing custodial solutions like CoinOS or ecash wallets like Minibits. It was pointed out to me on several occasions that this wasn't good.
Of course, I could have suggested they set up a node and open channels, but this is not the sort of thing one does in five minutes while chatting with each other. I suspect that some very interesting Bitcoiners who would enjoy SN are still being kept away by the setup cost of lightning (or by the icky feeling they get from custody). I don't think this is a problem SN needs to solve, it is inherent to lightning -- but it is a real obstacle to a number of people who would have otherwise been ideal stackers.

How I pitched SN to Bitcoiners at the conference

I have been completely convinced by @DarthCoin that pay to post is the major innovation of SN. But despite my commitment to the idea, I found it usually came second or third in my pitch to the people who came by our table.
Most often my pitch was something like: "It's a forum like reddit or hacker news but everything is done with sats -- you pay to post, you pay to like, you earn sats when people like what you write."
Sometimes I would say things like "It is one of the places on the internet where you are most likely to be zapped."
In most cases I felt like my pitch wasn't very compelling. I'm not sure if I was failing to articulate the problem SN solves or if I was getting bogged down too much in the details ("No mods...well, actually there are mods, but only on some territories...territories are like sub-reddits or topic-based little mini forums" or "you have to use lightning to use SN, unless you don't want to earn sats -- then you can just get cowboy credits, which are like points that you can buy with sats, but you can't withdraw them, but mostly people use sats and that's why you need to connect a wallet -- you can connect lots of different lightning wallets, but not Phoenix, well you can connect Phoenixd..."). I really need to refine my pitch.

Conclusion: I highly recommend attending smaller, more technical Bitcoin conferences (even if you are not technical). Meeting Stackers in real life makes using SN even better.

410 sats \ 0 replies \ @plebpoet 7h
The pitch you describe is so real lol so painfully real. (I think I would onboard someone quickly with cashapp. Using the cashtag you already have as a cashapp user is so easy. It’s a beautiful thing.) It was a highlight of my year to join you for bitcoin++! We like you a whole lot scoresby, thanks for what you do!
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304 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 5h
Of course, I could have suggested they set up a node and open channels, but this is not the sort of thing one does in five minutes while chatting with each other.
This is why it would be useful to have CLINK in Blixt or Zeus. Its still on my todo to get that into Blixt, because I've been a lazy mf, honestly. I'll get my shit together.
Either way, we really need something noncustodial. Right now the best performing NWC wallet I've used is cashu and that is not acceptable, especially since I still have 133 sats in the void on minibits.
PS:
Conclusion: I highly recommend attending smaller, more technical Bitcoin conferences (even if you are not technical).
This would be my advice to anyone, especially non-technical; if you wanna go somewhere, go to a lower key tech conference. You'll learn something. Plus you get to hang with the geeks who are all super nice people irl and that's awesome.
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144 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 6h
Awesome write up.
The pitch is difficult. I do like how you described it as pay to post first and then earn sats when people like what you produce. I do think SN attracts better users that way (but probably less).
SN has changed a lot since folks tried it in the early days. I think there are a couple marketing paths for SN "give SN a second look" for those that tried it in the past and left and "you should be on SN" for folks that haven't tried it.
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I think there are quite a few people who have never used an internet forum before (or at least not used a forum consciously). Describing SN as an online forum for bitcoiners that uses sats seemed to surprise some people. And I had to go back and explain what I meant by forum.
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In my efforts to onboard new users, I ran in to a new dynamic that I hadn't previously considered: there were a number of very serious and knowledgeable bitcoiners who were not lightning users. They don't have a problem with lightning, but just hadn't had an occasion to set up a node or use a lightning wallet.
This is a very important insight.
Although Stacker News is lightning native, I would argue that it is primarily a site for bitcoiners, not just lightning users.
I wonder if they could make it so you can buy cowboy credits with an on-chain transaction?
(As I was testing whether this is an option, I accidentally bought 10k cowboy credits using my attached wallet LOL)
(That's ok, just another 10k towards my eventual dream of buying a territory with 3m cowboy credits)
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102 sats \ 0 replies \ @ek 7m
As I was testing whether this is an option, I accidentally bought 10k cowboy credits using my attached wallet LOL
We want to replace confusing zap undos with a prompt that gets triggered on large zaps by default to ask for confirmation, then this shouldn’t happen anymore
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102 sats \ 1 reply \ @jasonb 3h
Hmmm, might @sn accept onchain payments in exchange for cowboy credits one day in the near future? The reverse could also be true. Obviously, no one would ever pay onchain to post once, but I could see someone do it to basically be the kingpin of Chuck E. Cheese for a few months.
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I've wondered about this. The payment flow might not be so different from the situation where someone wants to pay with fiat (credit cards). I don't know if that will ever happen, but it would be a way to open SN up to new users...
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I never would have even considered the lightning part being a hurdle for bitcoiners. I started with lightning before I did anything on-chain.
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I think a lot of pre 2020 bitcoiners are familiar with on chain payments as their primary mode of using bitcoin. And to be honest, when feerates are this low on chain isn't bad (just different than lightning though in regards instant micropayments).
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102 sats \ 1 reply \ @jennann 6h
When is the next meetup?
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Tabconf is a yearly event, usually in the fall.
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102 sats \ 2 replies \ @Sandman 6h
I enjoyed reading this post, it reminds me of the first time a registered here, it took me sometimes before I got to figure out how SN really works. When I tried to link my wallet, I had difficulty, so I had to stop using SN for a while.
Recently I decided check back on my account here , then careful try to link my wallet up.
It might be a little difficult to onboard a complete newbie and might require serious tutorial. But once the person gets to understand and know what to do, SN is the best place for him.
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I'd be very curious to read a write up of your experience linking your wallet. What you found easy, what was confusing.
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102 sats \ 0 replies \ @Sandman 6h
Okay! Will do that tomorrow.
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102 sats \ 1 reply \ @BlokchainB 7h
Fantastic write up!! Thanks for making SNIRL a great experience!!
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Thank you for getting it started sir! See you next year!
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102 sats \ 1 reply \ @cryotosensei 7h
Now you make me jealous about not living on the other side of the globe!
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Bitcoin++ does a lot of events on your side of the globe. This one is pretty soon, but I'm sure there will be others. Let me know if you are interested in the future. We could probably figure out how to get a table.
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