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the best moves i have done with bitcoin meetup groupchats is to leave them,
after collecting a few aware friends from there and continuing to educate them;
luckily, i am seeing some early fruits of my influence, and i am sure u do too, after years of teaching!
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No, I do not think that will change anything.
My observation was not about the territory per se, but about the shitcoiners mindset.
We need to change their mindset not the territory.