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33 sats \ 6 replies \ @DarthCoin 21h \ on: Should more BTCpay instances be provided for bitcoin merchants and businesses? AGORA
These public instances are supposed to be used only as demo or as a preliminary preparations, testing before use of a full BTCpay server on your own hardware.
Nevertheless, it could be also like "community servers" but they should well inform the users about terms of use, risks, etc. In the end you are using somebody else infrastructure so you will depend on them. Nothing wrong with that if they offer the service with specific warnings and limitations.
Yes, I agree, we should have more servers like these, "serving" local merchants. These could be an easy ramp-on for many hesitating merchants.
The instance hosted by BTCpay server is pretty clear about the conditions and take no responsibility in case of a loss.
Same for the other two I tried, the fact is that using them in a self-custodial manner does not affect the fact of using the open source software as payment gateway for onchain transactions.
Everything change if a lightning node is connected, especially if the business chose a custodial service to node. In this case the risks are much higher, it is always good to withdraw any fund once a certain threshold is reach. There should be no issue with a sovereign non-custodial lightning node.
From your experience, what would be the worst thing happening using such services?
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what would be the worst thing happening using such services?
Shut down and will disrupt your webshop services until you redirect, re-build everything on a new instance...
About the LN node thing. Did you tried also to run a hosted BTCpay instance, with Rizful (cloud node) ? You can easily connect BTCpay with NWC. You control the Rizful node liquidity, channels, funds etc, but you still depend on their cloud servers. Anyways is a good alternative if you do not want / can't run your own hardware.
Amd is simple as fuck. Just few clicks.
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Shut down and will disrupt your webshop services until you redirect, re-build everything on a new instance...
From my experience, does not take long to set up the hardware wallet in BTCpay. So if one shut down, there is another one ready to use.
Yes tried BTCpay on various service providers too, it definitely round smoothly and give access as admin instead of just a shop admin. Another benefit is that as admin, one can install various plugins, that would not be available in the instances mentioned above.
No did not try rizful yet, mostly played with the LNbits integration and our own node. I'll create one and play, great suggestion :)
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Be aware:
- there's Rizful custodial NWC wallet: https://rizful.com/
- and there's Rizful node in the cloud: https://rizful.com/node_in_the_cloud
Are not the same thing. I suggest to use the node option as a LN backend for a BTCpay. Even 1 max 2 private channels with a good LSP will be enough for a webshop.