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The part of Bitcoin you have to trust

There is a famous quote from Satoshi where he says
Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks like Napster, but pure P2P networks like Gnutella and Tor seem to be holding their own.
There's a lot in that last little phrase "seem to be holding their own."
Satoshi believed it was possible to build something that could "hold its own" against the power of the state. This is no small claim and, as you can see, even Satoshi wasn't fully sure of it: P2P networks only "seem" to be holding their own. It's not like we can prove it.
The truth is, we can never really know if it will be true tomorrow. Bitcoin is based on this hope that we can resist the state, but there's no reason this has to be true. We just have the somewhat shaky evidence that governments don't seem to be able to squash networks with certain qualities.
It's possible that they just haven't wanted to.

There is no promised land

It doesn't get said very often, but Bitcoin comes with no guarantees. You may have noticed that when you fired up your node, there wasn't a EULA nor did you have to check a little box saying that you agreed to the terms and conditions (if you did, consider using different node software).
Neither is there a buyer of last resort when it comes to Bitcoin. If most people demand some stupid shitcoin instead of bitcoin, or if they all just want to buy stonks and hold fiat, there is no insurance that will prevent you from losing the value you are trying to keep in bitcoin.
Likewise, if you lose your keys, there is no number to call that will get them back. And if you screwed something up when you created your wallet or sent your transaction, it's on you.
And if the state turns its malevolent eye towards Bitcoin, maybe it will be able to squash it. Maybe they'll print money to buy miners and get a majority of hashrate or maybe they'll just put their finger on the centralizing pressures of mining that already exist so they can have a nice easy target for when they want to attack Bitcoin. Perhaps the state will impose such draconian punishments on the self-sovereign use of Bitcoin that most people abandon it.

Bitcoin is a good money for those in the wilderness

We hold on to our dreams of a world where bankers don't get bailouts and politicians can't sneak our savings by printing money for their friends, and the crowd of confident Bitcoin boosters who write books have documented 1,000 reasons why Bitcoin is economically and politically certain to end the fiat game. As they say: nothing stops this train.
But that's just something we take on faith.
Resisting the state does not necessarily mean defeating it. It's possible that Bitcoin remains a niche subversive tool, like TOR, something that is only used by punks who dislike the state -- and that could be fabulous outcome, even if it doesn't make us all rich.
I've been reading Cryptoeconomics again, and this is an attempt to work through some of the ideas in the chapter called "Axiom of Resistance" which I am copying below.

Axiom of Resistance

In modern logic an axiom is a premise, it cannot be proven. It is a starting assumption against which other things may be proven. For example, in Euclidean geometry one cannot prove that parallel lines never meet. It simply defines the particular geometry.
Proving statements about Bitcoin requires reliance on axiomatic systems, specifically mathematics, probability and catallactics, and therefore the assumptions upon which they rely. However Bitcoin also relies on an axiom not found in these systems. Satoshi alludes to this in an early statement:
You will not find a solution to political problems in cryptography.
Yes, but we can win a major battle in the arms race and gain a new territory of freedom for several years.
Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled networks like Napster, but pure P2P networks like Gnutella and Tor seem to be holding their own.
Satoshi Thu Nov 6 15:15:40 EST 2008
In other words there is an assumption that it is possible for a system to resist state control. This is not accepted as a fact but deemed to be a reasonable assumption, due to the behavior of similar systems, on which to base the system.
One who does not accept the axiom of resistance is contemplating an entirely different system than Bitcoin. If one assumes it is not possible for a system to resist state controls, conclusions do not make sense in the context of Bitcoin - just as conclusions in spherical geometry contradict Euclidean. How can Bitcoin be permissionless or censorship-resistant without the axiom? The contradiction leads one to make obvious errors in an attempt to rationalize the conflict.
It is common for people to refer cynically to a Bitcoin-like system that omits the resistance axiom as just another "PayPal", a designation not without merit. Confinity originally attempted to create a system with a similar value proposition to Bitcoin. Having failed to do so it discarded the axiom, building the PayPal we know today.
Maybe they'll print money to buy miners and get a majority of hashrate or maybe they'll just put their finger on the centralizing pressures of mining that already exist so they can have a nice easy target for when they want to attack Bitcoin. Perhaps the state will impose such draconian punishments on the self-sovereign use of Bitcoin that most people abandon it.
This is the biggest thing missing from almost every discussion of btc, in my opinion -- what it means for it to succeed or fail, the various moves the state could make, what might happen as a result, and how we could tell, empirically, if it were happening.
My take is that most bitcoiners are operating under cartoonish assumptions about this, mainly from having never really thought critically about any of it and having instead incorporated the btc talking points as a matter of religion. The tell of this way of being are the grandstanding critiques of the existing systems, including prophecies about its ultimate fate, without actually understanding anything about it aside from what you've half-assedly absorbed from bitcoin podcasts.
A fun exercise is to tune in to media from the Hated Other and listen to how they make sense of the world. Feel the outrage rise up in you, all the but actuallys you swallow, or maybe don't swallow. And then realize that you're doing the same thing as they are. If you doubt that you're doing the same thing, ask some friends (or former friends) about what they think about your hot takes about their ideologies. Whether you're representing them fairly, in a way they'd endorse. Oops.
This behavior isn't unqique to bitcoiners, of course, although I used to expect better of them.
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There’s also an excluded middle issue. Even when your critics are stupid and misinformed, there still might be undiscovered problems with your own position.
I know I often take it as confirmation of my own correctness when I realize someone who’s disagreeing with me can’t actually back up their position, but strictly speaking that isn’t the implication.
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I know I often take it as confirmation of my own correctness when I realize someone who’s disagreeing with me can’t actually back up their position, but strictly speaking that isn’t the implication.
Ugh, this is one I have to fight against really hard, in all aspects of life: demolish somebody's stupid critique, demolish their rebuttal of my demolition, feel more sure than I did before. How sure should you feel about your skills when you can beat a child? And yet there's this giant desire for it.
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69 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 2h
Not govs will kill Bitcoin, but dumb and scared people. Blind compliance and statism is what will kill Bitcoin.
Remember the key word: COMPLIANCE
Many of today's people calling themselves bitcoiners, will drop BTC in a blink of an eye, when a gov will say that will not receive anymore money if they do not use some bullshit token or CBDC.
Today's people are so fucking cowards and totally brainwashed. Very few will stand their ground and say a firm NO, no matter what. Many will come with all kind of excuses but none will want to make any sacrifice.
We are writing a shit ton of articles, guides, documentation, podcasts, debates etc... all for nothing. People still go and use fiat and obey the gov orders.
So no... Bitcoin will not thrive, will not even get used mainstream until people will stop believing in gov authority.
Until then, Bitcoin will be just an underground economy, only for the brave.
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One of my big “aha moments” was thinking about how few weirdos like yourself, scattered all around the world, are actually needed to keep bitcoin going.
It can survive much more than its enemies can because it’s almost impossible to hunt all of you down.
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171 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 2h
I am already using bitcoin at daily basis, but underground, in economies that are only p2p, where people don't give a fuck about any gov. But yes, I made a lot of sacrifices and I will make even more, just to keep this life. And we just live a simple normal life. And that will not be taken by anybody from me. I will be the last man on earth using bitcoin.
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It’s as unstoppable as anything involving mortal beings, as far as I can tell.
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202 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 1h
This is probably my favorite chapter of Cryptoeconomics.
Bitcoin is based on this hope that we can resist the state, but there's no reason this has to be true.
Hope, or effort. The nice thing about consensus is that if there is consensus to resist, then there shall be resistance. This is why it's dangerous if Coinbase doesn't rug, and if Saylor doesn't eventually get rekt, and we all end up depending on these central actors that will sing like a bird and comply, and ultimately why we decentralize and why the best central entity is a dead one.
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I think this axiom is too broad and vague.
Physical reality is a system that the state does not control, for instance.
The state is merely a collection of men. Its power is bounded by the capabilities of finite beings, however grand those may be.
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I understood Voskuil's point here to be that we have to assume that we can resist, there's no real evidence that a p2p network like bitcoin will be durable in the face of an consistent effort by strong state. It's something we just kinda have to guess at, or take on faith.
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171 sats \ 0 replies \ @Artilektt 2h
I mean...there is kind of some real evidence right, as Satoshi pointed out. They've basically given up on doing anything about torrenting and despite many attacks the Pirate Bay remains active to this day. Every once in awhile some big outfit gets busted but it doesn't affect anything.
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That’s what I don’t agree with. I don’t see why we can’t assess what the state can and can’t do.
It’s complicated for sure but ultimately it should rest on the same axiom set as our other economic theories.
read "other means principle" I think also from cryptoeconomics. erik voskuil.
explains how resistance would actually play out, step by step
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128 sats \ 0 replies \ @SwapMarket 4h
To trust means to accept something you can't verify by logic. Game theory tells me that miners are better off making bitcoin network stronger rather than joining forces in a 51% attack to kill it. No government can change that incentive.
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Governments can’t take down Bitcoin, but I do think that if they really wanted to, they could cut its usage way down. They’ve got plenty of ways to do that.
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