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Nostr: isn't it obvious that following is not trusting?
504 sats \ 10 comments \ @pillar 5h nostr
Getting this frustration out of my chest.
I think nostr is very promising for digital identity and social apps. It provides a good UX where pgp failed terribly. Many people are dancing around web-of-trust ideas with it, which is great. But then I see them just grab the follow events and use that to build a web-of-trust. It grinds my gears terribly.
Isn't it obvious that the fact that I FOLLOW someone has NO relation at all with me TRUSTING them? I follow Odell, but I'm not going to leave my cat with him when I'm out for the weekend.
Nostr is missing a "trust" event where we actually signal publicly that we do trust an npub and that we would be happy trusting that person to some degree. Then, we can built web of trust and other cool apps on top of that.
Please, if you work on this area, just don't use follows. Take the effort and build on a proper foundation and make a trust NIP, instead of hijacking something that will fail you eventually.
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 2h
GrapeRank uses mutes, engagements, zaps, reports etc... nymrank is built over that
Biggest limiting factor is what nostr is used for: fugazi Twitter. Limited data to actually glean from... zaps are inadequate economic activity.
Cooking up a few things that, with any traction, will provide new vectors for WoT calculations
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @Undisciplined 4h
Following is a suggestion of trust but there are others and it will be best to include them all: ie zaps, replies, reposts, etc.
Hopefully, they’re looking at what k00b’s done here, rather than fully reinventing the wheel.
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169 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 4h
funny enough k00b just nuked the whole trust on SN hahahahaha
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @Undisciplined 2h
Yeah, but I think that’s just temporary. He wants to see what it was actually doing and revise the formula.
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69 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 1h
is temporary like USD inflation ... right? <insert meme>
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 1h
You can’t prove inflation isn’t temporary
Edit: actually, I forgot that you’re a shitposting robot sent back in time. Maybe you can prove it’s permanent.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 1h
that's true
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @sondreb 1h
There can and maybe should be an alternative ability to declare trust, but that could also be an attestation of sorts. Forcing a new concept on users to decide trust is complex and unless there is a specific context and purpose of this separate WOT, it's mostly worthless. As we've discussed, you might trust someone to watch your cat, but you wouldn't give them a loan.
The context of WOT on Nostr, at least from my point of view on top of my head right now, is primarily for consumption of events. If I follow two medical doctors on Nostr, I do it because I trust their expertise and I want to see their content. WOT on Nostr for me is about having access to an extend sphere of influence extended out from my own decisions for direct following list. I'd like to have a feed that introduces events from non-following but is connected to my immediate WOT.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 5h
What if I do not want to trust a npub anymore?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @pillar OP 5h
You'll need to add some "Untrust" event at a later date.
General pattern for nostr: there is no undo. There is only the option of doing the opposite on top of what you did.
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