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to find truth through logic and reason i am not sure how helpful it is to look at a paper written in 2008.
Why not? That's Bitcoin.
- do you consider routing in ln purely p2p?
Routing is what makes it peer-through-peer, so correct, it is not pure p2p. I consider it a necessary evil for onion routing. I personally don't need onion routing per-se because I mix, but it's a welcome addition to the toolbox.
- is a ln node that routes payments a middlemen?
Technically, yes. It also extracts a fee for providing anonymization, so there is some value to be had. But yes, it's a middleman.
so we could assmilk and let the kid buy his sandwich
Yes, though capital efficiency is very bad right now. There was a nice video about it re-shared today (it's from October) #1407722
are you saying because bitcoin scaled in the past it will scale in the future?
No, I am saying that it has always scaled non-custodially and that any custodial solution is a lazy, and more often, deceitful solution. Like Udi saying his FTX reflink is the only way to scale Bitcoin.
you are describing the ideal scenario where you have a direct channel with sn, but i guess you agree, that this is not viable/practical for all sn users right?
I'm describing what I do, not an ideal scenario. Ideally I could buy credits from L1, and do it in a mix-out straight from a coinjoin. Everyone can find their own path to success though, I don't really care. Judgment is for dictators, not peers. So you let me buy CCs, I let you use a bank. I just hope you don't get rugged, and I hope you hope that I don't fuck up my keys.
Judgment is for dictators, not peers. So you let me buy CCs, I let you use a bank. I just hope you don't get rugged, and I hope you hope that I don't fuck up my keys.
i absolutely agree with this and i think it is a good end for the discussion
i hope it is clear, that i never had the intention to tell you what you should do. it was a genuine interest in your reasoning for doing what you're doing and i think i understand you much better now than before
it is also worth mentioning, that we probably agree on more than we disagree
to find truth through logic and reason i am not sure how helpful it is to look at a paper written in 2008. but let's go with that
so we could assmilk and let the kid buy his sandwich
are you saying because bitcoin scaled in the past it will scale in the future?
you are describing the ideal scenario where you have a direct channel with sn, but i guess you agree, that this is not viable/practical for all sn users right?