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lit (evergreenness ranking)lit (evergreenness ranking)

Big update here is that old items can be zapped and boosted (or re-lit) back into ranking high in lit, what we formerly called hot. Items in lit are ranked based on when they receive "investment" (zaps, boost, etc), not when they are created. New investment on an old item will cause the item to move up in lit ranking and it will compete with other items receiving investment around the same time.

We've talked a lot about evergreenness since this post: #331942. lit ranking is a stab at that. h/t @Undisciplined and @SimpleStacker

I'm not sure how this will shake out, but we have an awesome back catalog with lots of stuff people haven't seen. Hopefully valuable things get rediscovered as often as they deserve to.

X sats reflects all positive investmentX sats reflects all positive investment

Before, the sats on a post only reflected zaps. Now it reflects zaps+cost+boost. e.g. if it costs 30 sats to post and I boost 30 sats and someone zaps me 40 sats, my post will show 100 sats. You can view the breakdown by hovering over the sats or clicking on details (which got a makeover) by clicking ....

You can glance at a post and say "X sats were invested in this." h/t @Scoresby

All of these - zaps, boost, cost - contribute to ranking equally, and should make reasoning about sat filters easier. h/t @Undisciplined

downzaps no longer have 3x the power of zapsdownzaps no longer have 3x the power of zaps

boost=zaps=downzaps=cost in terms of ranking. h/t butthole

jobs were brought up to speed with other site mechanicsjobs were brought up to speed with other site mechanics

Jobs, posts in the ~jobs territory, work like other posts on the site now. They have lit rank and they can be boosted onto the frontpage like any other kind of post.

references to zaprank were replaced with satsreferences to zaprank were replaced with sats

sats is a more familiar term for what zaprank evolved to mean: rank by economic weight. Also, this sat ranking considers the cumulative economic weight of an item's replies too, their cost, zaps, and boost, and new investment in replies can cause their thread to get re-lit. h/t @Undisciplined

search refinementssearch refinements

Search and related posts should provide marginally better results, and it should be easier to distinguish one item from another in search. Our search has always kind of sucked, but the tooling has improved a lot recently so I should be able to make it pretty darn good in short order.

Oh, and I also renamed recent -> new. When I change hot -> lit, I figured what the heck.


Happy Valentine's day!

151 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 1h

This solves the evergreen problem completely, without awkward workarounds. Brilliant.

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48 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 1h

It’s a power unique to sats I think.

@simplestacker came up with the simple form that made it worth doing.

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112 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 2h

It's 🔥

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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @Megah9 2h

Does this mean someone could strategically re-lit strong old posts during slow days to gain visibility?
Curious how this changes timing strategies.

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17 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 2h

yes

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22 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 1h

search engine is still by far not relevant. Almost impossible to find something using SN search feature. I did several tests, with exact title of a post and none found.
So I give up using SN search.

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Fair, I think matches are still too fuzzy. As I said it’s marginally better (in a narrow domain).

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1 sat \ 3 replies \ @adlai 59m

how much of the database permissions must I beg before it becomes quicker to social my way into the "private" dev chat?

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What?

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1 sat \ 1 reply \ @adlai 35m
search engine is still by far not relevant. Almost impossible to find something using SN search feature. I did several tests, with exact title of a post and none found.
So I give up using SN search.
-- DarthCoin

Fair, I think matches are still too fuzzy. As I said it’s marginally better (in a narrow domain).

context maintenance difficult when you have this many conversations going simultaneously, @k00b ; have you considered muting my SN nym, so you benefit from "let's let money moderate" more than the least proficient or most-DDoSed community members?

don't get me wrong, it is admirable to both use and cope with your project!

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Admirable or not it’s useful. SN is the people here.

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14 sats \ 2 replies \ @Megah9 2h

As someone still learning SN mechanics, this change makes things clearer.
So ranking is now purely about sats invested, not timing?
That seems more aligned with long-term value.

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14 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b OP 2h
So ranking is now purely about sats invested, not timing?

both

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12 sats \ 0 replies \ @adlai 58m

how often do randos complain that you have neither hat nor horse?

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Oh, and I also renamed recent -> new. When I change hot -> lit, I figured what the heck

For the lolz, beautiful

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Could be a good concept introduced

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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @adlai 18s

hood

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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @adlai 1h
You can glance at a post and say "X sats were invested in this." h/t @Scoresby

I still don't like this; not gonna bother taking it to GitHub discussions, nor socialing my way into any dev slackalike, for I spark discord by merely listening, maybe;

is "little L2" a dirty phrase in the conversation space spanned by ~dev ~design and ~meta?

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