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If SN was using a "CC printer" to do downzaps, where would the real sats SN pays out every day come from?

From my sats that they are downzapping with CCs.

How does SN get your sats?

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By downzapping my post with CCs...and my response to that downzapping.

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That makes no sense.

If you are boosting your post, most of that is going to the territory owners. So if you made a post in ~Politics_And_Law, siggy gets 70% of your boost sats.

I don't see how you boosting your post gives sats to SN.

Further, let's pretend I downzap your post with CCs. 100% of those CCs go to the reward pool and then are paid out to stackers as rewards at the end of the day. Where do the real sats stackers get come from? We already determined that your boost sats are going to the territory owner.

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30% of my boost goes to SNs.
The CCs cost SN nothing.
The majority of sats credited to territory owners as rewards are not taken out of SNs but are used to pay territory rents or used to post, boost or comment.
It would be a classic fiat exercise in monetary stimulus, leveraged off my incoming real money sats.

So just to be clear @Scoresby you are not using CCs to downzap my post?

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my friend, I am not downzapping you at all.

But, now instead of accusing SN of "printing CCs" you are claiming that the sats you pay to boost your post go to territory owners and SN gets real sats from territory owners paying for territories and then someone at SN is downzapping you with these real sats.

It would be helpful if you stuck to one accusation at a time.

I was trying to point out that CCs used to downzap get paid out as sats. So, it would cost SN just as much to downzap you one CC as it does to downzap you one sat.

But there is an easy solution, even if you don't believe me: stop spending sats here.

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PS according to # Stacker News Saturday Newsletter 4/11/26 you are the only stacker who spent enough in the last week to be the downzapper.

Otherwise what were you spending 148.3k sats/CCs on?

Top SpendersTop Spenders

  1. @Solomonsatoshi: 268.9k sats spent
  2. @Scoresby: 148.3k sats spent
  3. @AtlantisPleb: 65.8k sats spent
  4. @SimpleStacker: 61.9k sats spent
  5. @Undisciplined: 58.4k sats spent

So I kind of have to take your denial with a few grains of salt.

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There is no pleasing you. First you say people don't zap. Then, here I am zapping as much as possible because I want to see SN grow, and you insinuate that I'm just downzapping you and lying about it.

I keep thinking that a reasonable, kind interaction will help you, but clearly, I'm wrong. Thank you for the lesson.

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Don't try gaslighting me.

What is unreasonable about my comment?- I was relying on data provided by Stacker News Saturday Newsletter 4/11/26- False data.

Top Spenders

  1. @Solomonsatoshi: 268.9k sats spent
  2. @Scoresby: 148.3k sats spent
  3. @AtlantisPleb: 65.8k sats spent
  4. @SimpleStacker: 61.9k sats spent
  5. @Undisciplined: 58.4k sats spent

The data above that I relied on in good faith was supposedly for the week ended Saturday.

This data is up till a few hours ago today-

I am strongly of the view - do not trust- verify.

The data, some of which appears altered strongly suggests you and/or @koob are the only stackers who could have been responsible for the downzaps.

'stacker is in hiding' is also possible.

@koobs spending and that of 'stacker in hiding' appears to have been omitted from the data published in the Stacker News Saturday Newsletter 4/11/26

Do not expect me to be pleased with being fed false data and gaslighting evasion.

@koob continues to not give any response to my questions about this.

Do not trust- verify.

You and @koob can easily verify your degree of recent downzapping by posting your recent wallet satistics spending graphics- here are mine- nothing to hide?

I tend toward believing you but hope you can understand my position which is that I cannot concretely verify what is the truth here as I do not have access to the data.
Only SNs, probably @koob might have access to the definitive data?
I dont have access to it and have asked if @koob can provide it with no response at this point in time.

Am more than happy to spend sats on a contest of ideas and for some of those sats to go to other content contributors and the platform that is enabling the content to be shared. That is of course the V$V Pay toPost model on which SNs is built. All good!
I have just been surprised by how determined someone appears to be to downzap content raising the issue of The Greater Israel Project.
Their determination to downzap makes me wonder if there really is something to 'The Greater Israel Project' that deserves exposure especially considering the current conflict - am really not sure as it seems quite far fetched. That is why I have responded as I have.

As I have described above if SNs was using CCs to downzap my post those CCs would generate sats input into the SN economy from my response and while as you say 70% of those sats would be passed on to territory owners via the rewards pool, 30% would remain with SNs. In addition many of the 70% sats received by territories would be used to pay rent on those territories or otherwise be spent within SNs.

It could be a way of 'quantitative easing' and stimulating the SNs economy, at my cost!
Quitting is often portrayed as an easy solution and on the surface of course it is, but its not usually my preferred option...in my experience greater rewards are found with perserverance.

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