Being a defense lawyer is sometimes not much different from being a business lawyer. You work out the best deal for your clients. They are the boss. It is their lives who are affected. I would say just about 100% of my clients over the years cared about one thing: can they go home and sleep in their own bed tonight? Pleading guilty is part of the deal, even though it always rubbed me the wrong way. It's even worse when the government forces your client to admit to facts that you know are not true. The cops know it too. A criminal courtroom survives on lies, and everyone does it - the judge, the cops, the DA, the defense lawyer, and the defendant.
Is it not pleading guilty and having them punish you using their legal system, or pleading guilty and leaving there morally bound to a confession of guilt?
when you enter in a plea (guilty or not it doesn't matter) you are literally renounce to your right to defend. You are done, you are a garbage in their eyes and they can do whatever they want with you.
Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
@siggy47 as ex defense lawyer, what do you have to say about this "pleading" (guilty or not) ?
Being a defense lawyer is sometimes not much different from being a business lawyer. You work out the best deal for your clients. They are the boss. It is their lives who are affected. I would say just about 100% of my clients over the years cared about one thing: can they go home and sleep in their own bed tonight? Pleading guilty is part of the deal, even though it always rubbed me the wrong way. It's even worse when the government forces your client to admit to facts that you know are not true. The cops know it too. A criminal courtroom survives on lies, and everyone does it - the judge, the cops, the DA, the defense lawyer, and the defendant.
Is it not pleading guilty and having them punish you using their legal system, or pleading guilty and leaving there morally bound to a confession of guilt?
when you enter in a plea (guilty or not it doesn't matter) you are literally renounce to your right to defend. You are done, you are a garbage in their eyes and they can do whatever they want with you.
Thank you. It was all that I wanted to hear/know from you.
don't make him loose his license
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Lux's library :)
Yeah, to read, still :)
It's a term from Common law, but stolen to make it sound official, i think
I saw some were pleading facts BEFORE court, otherwise it's too late
Matthew 5:25
Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
I meant conditional acceptance, or affidavit
If they kidnapp you to court, like Jagamara said, 'Your Honor, I'm not here to plead guilty or not guilty, I'm here to prove I did not break the law'
Another question for Siggy
All these npubs organising sending Bitcoin to Keonnes honeypot address
Could the feds take a dim view of those public posts aiding a prisoner?
Not sure the legality so hence the Q
fun fact: the fed posted that tweet :) and losers are just reposting it