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could we just make it so freebies can be zapped, which can affect their visibility, but they don't earn any sats? (100% of freebie zaps go to rewards)
That destroys the entry point.
How will you make your first sat ever, on SN?
Talk to people on SN and figure out how to get bitcoin and create a lightning wallet.
Right, so goodwill instead of merit. Fine... but then: how do I extract sats from every person that sponsored a bot to post slop that I then had to downzap even more?
no, I didn't mean beg for your first sats. I mean connect your own lightning wallet and use your own bitcoin that you got from somewhere else (or use them to buy CCs)
but the idea is that you can still talk to people here even if you don't know how to do all that. you just won't earn any tips until you actually pay to post
use your own bitcoin
But I asked about
your first sat ever
Which implies you don't have any sats. That's what I understand the freebies to be for: to introduce people to Bitcoin that before coming to SN have never interacted with it. Like organic orange pilling.
If they come here without having any bitcoin, and they enjoy the conversation here, they can learn from the users here how to buy their own bitcoin, then use that to acquire CCs or connect a wallet and start posting for real
couldn't we do this:
if you zap a post which a number of other stackers then downzap, you lose some ranking in the reward pool
I'm not so good with the permutations of how things have changed, but i think I remember a time when we had something like this dynamic with trust. If trust gets reintroduced, I could see this working. Without trust it would be vulnerable to a sock puppet attack.
Freebies is technically only detrimental to territory-specific control, but side-wide, as long as there are 1 sat comments, it doesn't make that much difference. There still is a per-territory
allowFreebiesfield in the db, it is just not linked up to the configuration afaict. Maybe that would be a better solution than nuking the feature completely.There are 5 freebies per account per month, so it is only a real bother for sybil account bots. The cost of a new account is technically the cpu time of generating a nostr key though - i.e. cheap. However, limiting the freebies site-wide is probably too obstructive to new, blank users. Need an entry point somehow.