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The SMTP feature offered in Proton is a bridge (on both incoming and outgoing from their systems) - it doesn't have all the security/privacy guarantees that their clients have when you would send proton->proton.

Depending on what you are doing, and what kind of privacy you desire, it's probably still one of the more useful endpoints.

Depending on what you are doing

All I'm using it for is to let people know the order is being processed, or simple follow up, nothing complicated.

What I'm looking for is something simple to configure, or at least learnable for a non-tech person, or good tools that don't ask for too much information (both Mailgun and Brevo asked for a number to verify), and ideally I own all the data. 👀

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In this age of centralized email services, self-hosted email itself is not simple to configure yourself. Even Amazon SES (kind of became the gold standard for sending out automated email this past decade) is complicated to configure, gated and so on.

With Proton at least you get to have some GDPR-style protection of "forget me" and "gimme my data". It's not a poor choice.

If we wanna stay in the bitcoin-sphere, maybe we can check out how lnemail integrates though!

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just did a tested with lnemail, wow, really cool, but how can this beintegrated with SMTP?

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Would need to make a plugin that implements their API.

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plenty of plugins, this is one #1531673

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Does it implement lnemail's REST API? Because that's not in your screenshot.

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133 sats \ 9 replies \ @AGORA 24 Jul

Oh ok, you are right, it's compolicated to use lnmail for this case.

@Natalia evaluate these options too:

  • Mailbox.org has no free tier but starts from ~€1/mo (good German privacy law)
  • Posteo.de has no free tier either, same €1/mo ( smae German privacy law + anonymous signup)
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who had thought ~AGORA is also the best place to ask for tools recommendation:)

German privacy law is not preventive tho! Nor absolute! I know because they sent me a text a couple of times in 2020 saying "hey bro we are now actively mapping your movements through your phone to make sure you don't go outside and spread the Rona".

Image if also being able to link personal domains to lnemail...

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That kind of defeats the "anonymous" part of this service, but yes. Maybe this is a good trigger for someone to create a service for that, which doesn't focus on anonymity as much (but keeps the per-mail cost.)

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I mean linking the domain that you own and purchased by sats, still anonymous:)

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Yes! Just you cannot claim anonymous unless you also sell and custody the domain (like njalla does - which technically means you don't own it) and make sure it is anon yourself, because if you don't then you'll get retards that paid their domain with credit card (or paid their protonmail address that way) and are surprised when they get picked up by popo, and blame you (like Proton gets blamed a lot.) Also because of all the crazy protocols you need to maintain DNS-side to actually get inbox delivery - as a user you'd want to outsource that too.

I think there's a nice niche here for someone that likes sats and understands how DMARC works though!

Contact their support and ask if they provide SMTP credentials and under which port (usually 465), TLS, SSL or not, and other setups

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147 sats \ 8 replies \ @AGORA 24 Jul

LNmail is great, we are also exploring https://nostrmail.org and https://nostr-mail.com

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Better signup for a cheap hosting provider that provide email server.

for example?

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112 sats \ 5 replies \ @AGORA 24 Jul

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which one is your fav?

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211 sats \ 3 replies \ @AGORA 24 Jul

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Hosting my own e-mail means I could stop using Proton or Tuta, and then I should use something like Thunderbird to access the account right?

I tried nostrmail the other day!

And I just did a test sending mail from nostrmail to lnemail, the mail arrived instantly. 😳

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147 sats \ 1 reply \ @AGORA 24 Jul

Have you tried WP Mail SMTP plugin? It offers plenty of integrations and has useful reporting.

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I was using this when I was using ProtonMail. 👀

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