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I would really like to see included wage data too. My guess is it won't be nearly as dramatic, but maybe I'm wrong.

about 800% for one unbroken FRED database that goes back to then https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES0500000030.
Almost 1,100% if we use the Social security wage index (you being a luxury communist boomer lover and all), https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html

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You had to stick that in, didn't you?

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YES!

It was, sort of, relevant!

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I'm defending my peers. MY SS is so tiny it's embarrassing. The average ( you like averages) SS payout is $1800/month. Not exactly living large in the good ole USA. AND it's taxable. And it is offset by any income you may earn elsewhere dollar for dollar until you turn 67. Europeans would hate this system. What's the retirement age there. 35?

AND, they automatically deduct crappy mandatory Medicare premiums.

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It's pretty similar in most of western europe. Main exception France, where I think the retirement age is 62 or so? I have pensions in 3 countries that respectively become available at ages 67, 68 and 70. SS... yeah I don't get that lol.

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I know of at least 3 countries where the numbers are wrong for because they are from 2021.

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The difference from these figures is likely only a few months. These are the legal retirement ages without a penalty. Many people retire earlier, but with a penalty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retirement_in_Europe

what, an internet map showing some random shit IS WRONG?!

On a forum known for impeccable accuracy?!

I'm shocked, honestly

what do you mean, looks like a great life?

Also, free entry to the golf courses


also: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/how-rich-am-i?income=21600&countryCode=USA&numAdults=1&numChildren=0

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Hey! That's me on the left

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amazing! I thought it was curious that googling for "born in the USA" would show Siggy, but I guess the AIs are getting smart now?!

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A guy can't get any privacy anymore. Not even just hanging out on a Friday night with the boys 😀

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No, the LE67 in the US is like 15 years. Nice try fudging the statistics, tho.

More snarky: tell me how you understand neither life expectancy nor CPI without telling me...

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You're correct. Using the Social Security (?) calculations it's like 16 years. However, I shouldn't have used that stat anyway, since it's a predictor of those who make it to 67. More relevant would be the average lifespan of a man born in 1959 in the U.S. - 73 years.

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No. This is what I suspected was the core problem, hence my snark: you don't understand what life expectancy is.

You made it to 67, along with all the others who did. So the relevant stat is forward-looking from here (with the crowd characteristics and threats to wellbeing going forward, not accounting for infants who died 66 years ago or soldiers or car accidents 35y ago)

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I get your point, but the average lifespan of a guy born in the US in 1959 who entered the work force in 1980 is 73. 6 years of 1800/month

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Every time I google I get a different answer. Can you give me a source? You claim a 67 year old male in the US LE is what? 82? Where did you find this?

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Yes, that would give a better idea. I can't find any charts right now, but I think I saw one a while back that showed that inflation-adjusted wages were practically the same in 1970. But I could be wrong!

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