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about 800% for one unbroken FRED database that goes back to then https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CES0500000030.
Almost 1,100% if we use the Social security wage index (you being a luxury communist boomer lover and all), https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/AWI.html

You had to stick that in, didn't you?

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YES!

It was, sort of, relevant!

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I'm defending my peers. MY SS is so tiny it's embarrassing. The average ( you like averages) SS payout is $1800/month. Not exactly living large in the good ole USA. AND it's taxable. And it is offset by any income you may earn elsewhere dollar for dollar until you turn 67. Europeans would hate this system. What's the retirement age there. 35?

AND, they automatically deduct crappy mandatory Medicare premiums.

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It's pretty similar in most of western europe. Main exception France, where I think the retirement age is 62 or so? I have pensions in 3 countries that respectively become available at ages 67, 68 and 70. SS... yeah I don't get that lol.

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I know of at least 3 countries where the numbers are wrong for because they are from 2021.

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The difference from these figures is likely only a few months. These are the legal retirement ages without a penalty. Many people retire earlier, but with a penalty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retirement_in_Europe

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to your edit: the wiki link is much more updated and shows you those that are wrong in your 2021 map.

Also note that since I am not 67 yet, some of the things listed as current are already known to change before I turn 67, and some countries move faster than others (Belgium moving pretty quickly with their increases now for example, also because they postponed the decision for 2 decades haha)

In some countries (like France) the number of quarters you worked and contributed makes a difference. Something like if you have 170 quarters of work history you can get it at 62. And at 67 you get full SS regardless of work history.

what, an internet map showing some random shit IS WRONG?!

On a forum known for impeccable accuracy?!

I'm shocked, honestly

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what do you mean, looks like a great life?

Also, free entry to the golf courses


also: https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/how-rich-am-i?income=21600&countryCode=USA&numAdults=1&numChildren=0

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Hey! That's me on the left

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amazing! I thought it was curious that googling for "born in the USA" would show Siggy, but I guess the AIs are getting smart now?!

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A guy can't get any privacy anymore. Not even just hanging out on a Friday night with the boys ๐Ÿ˜€

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No, the LE67 in the US is like 15 years. Nice try fudging the statistics, tho.

More snarky: tell me how you understand neither life expectancy nor CPI without telling me...

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You're correct. Using the Social Security (?) calculations it's like 16 years. However, I shouldn't have used that stat anyway, since it's a predictor of those who make it to 67. More relevant would be the average lifespan of a man born in 1959 in the U.S. - 73 years.

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No. This is what I suspected was the core problem, hence my snark: you don't understand what life expectancy is.

You made it to 67, along with all the others who did. So the relevant stat is forward-looking from here (with the crowd characteristics and threats to wellbeing going forward, not accounting for infants who died 66 years ago or soldiers or car accidents 35y ago)

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I get your point, but the average lifespan of a guy born in the US in 1959 who entered the work force in 1980 is 73. 6 years of 1800/month

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But that's not you; because out of the sample of guys who did that, quite a few of them have already fallen off.

Plus โ€” and here I'm guessing cuz I don't know the details of SS payments โ€” I don't presume they cut you off at 73, do they? (They pay until death, whether 73 or 103)

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Every time I google I get a different answer. Can you give me a source? You claim a 67 year old male in the US LE is what? 82? Where did you find this?

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