"He who controls the memes controls the universe". Can't speak for the science behind seed oils.. it certainly sounds plausible... but I think it's so fascinating culturally that memeification has become the best way to effectively to spread a message/movement these days. 4-Chan has spilled out into the mainstream. I'm not altogether sure it's a good thing, but it's fascinating...
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It's more like group-think, rather than being contrarian. The food talk mostly originates from Saifedean, and these bitcoin influencers just repeat religiously whatever non-sense he says.
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Nutrition "science" is just the worst. There are so many conflicts of interest everywhere and you can't get anyone to follow any diet for more than a few weeks, much less get any quality long-term longitudinal data worth a damn.
So much anecdote gets repeated ad nauseum, it's really hard to know what to believe and what's placebo. Especially when you're dealing with young healthy people, many who happen to be on TRT, it's so hard to discern what's true effect.
You hear some people swear they reverse their coronary artery disease on X diet and I hear anecdotes from cardiology "influencers" saying they're seeing increasing numbers of young persons on X diet coming in with MIs on angiogram.
So much audience capture by people shucking their books, supplements, youtube channels and podcasts all trying to get onto JRE gravy train. Huberman is a good popular example of a productive scientist who seems to now sensationalize and embellish research results for popular consumption. Going to turn into the Dr. Oz of neuroscience.
My medical advice- eat whatever you want, in moderation. Don't be fat.
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My approach is that if you want to be safe, look at what people have had success with for the longest period of time.
This excludes most processed foods, if not all. Stuff like seed oils and refined sugar are the obvious examples.
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Wait, what's the deal with seed oils? That refined sugars is a recent invention in human history is kind of obvious. But isn't like e.g. olive oil kind of ancient?
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Olive oil is not a seed oil
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Wait, what?I thought the pit of the olive is a seed? Isn't it possible to smash the thing into some earth and get a new olive tree out of it?
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Pretty sure the oil comes from the olive fruit, not the pit
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Oh okay, then I understand what this thing is about. Thanks!
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"Olive oil is produced by grinding olives and extracting the oil by mechanical or chemical means."
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To be clear, I also think eating seed oils is not good, but I think it's kind of fun bitcoiners get addressed as a group like this.
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The biggest problem is that most "fitness gurus" (male and female) are products of steroid and HGH abuse while the programs and advice they're peddling are bunk if you're not juiced. You can totally shed fat and maintain muscle by cutting out carbs completely if you're injecting synthetic testosterone into your body. Otherwise, you'll catabolize lean mass no matter how much protein (and adults don't need that much protein) you consume. I speak as someone who juiced consistently for a decade, so I know all the tricks. Everything they preach is misdirection from the truth at your expense.
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fuck vice it's owned by Disney!
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condescending as f*%k. -- critical thinking is now fringe
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