The fight is pointless.

Why would anyone trust a centralized coordinator anyway?

Have you looked into Jam which is a frontend for joinmarket and fidelity bonds?

I used wasabi, samourai, jam, and mercury wallet, to enhance my privacy all have its benefits and drawbacks. All require some sort of trust and none of them give you perfect privacy. Try them all use the one that is easiest for you and fits your world view.

There is a widespread frustration within the Bitcoin privacy space. Developments and developers in this area are sparse.

The Samurai cult has deterred potential Bitcoin privacy developers with their unfathomable aggression towards them and their tendency to spread negativity. Consider, for example, the uproar when Blockstream advertised its privacy achievements with Confidential Transactions on Liquid or PayJoins in Green, or during every single one of Wasabi's achievements, most recently on BTCPay and Trezor integrations. Even those who dare to discuss the privacy breakthroughs of the Lightning Network face harassment. This phenomenon is so well-recognized that some even suspect the team behind it is part of a government operation.

Seasoned privacy advocates like Peter Todd, who coined the term "coinjoin", Greg Maxwell, the inventor of coinjoin, myself, who created the type of coinjoin they're currently using, and Chris Belcher, who invented the only other type of coinjoin (excluding the new Wasabi 2.0 coinjoins), all view them as a malicious joke. They cannot be compared to Wasabi or JoinMarket because they are a trusted third party.

On the topic of doxxing, the interview was not the first time the Samurais revealed their identities. It's not as though I disclosed something that I learned in secret. I merely pointed to a public resource to establish a connection between one of their sockpuppets and them: the company registry where they exposed their identities.

They believe that if they yell "doxxing" loudly enough, it will somehow become true, but it doesn't.

The Samurais have abandoned their pseudonyms multiple times, not only during the interview and in the company registry, where they disclosed their identities. They just had a change of heart when people started to link their past scams to their current scams, like when they worked at blockchain.info and botched the wallet's random generation - they were seeding user wallets from random.org - causing many users to lose money: https://nopara73.medium.com/samouraileaks-part-3-is-random-org-random-enough-35704796ae93

These malicious actors are present and will remain so until they pull an exit scam or Bitcoin users discover the deserted state of their git repositories, wise up, and slowly but inevitably fade into irrelevance.

Bitcoin privacy is bleeding from the inside just as much as from the outside, but all hope is not yet lost. At Wasabi Wallet, we won't rush head first into the wall. We will do everything possible to build a sovereign money management freedom software stack. Feel free to hurl old and new scamurai propaganda at us; we'll continue writing code.

Samourai is a light client, you connect to their server, so they recieve your xpub. If you don't use Tor, which they ask at setup, they also have your IP address. There may be a possible issue with a way to screw yourself with toxic change if you do something wrong.

The company that owns Wasabi, ZkSnacks, definitely takes a portion of money and pays chainanalytics with it. Unfortunately, I can't support them because of this. They previously DEFINITELY had a toxic change thing, but looks like they fixed it. They did not handle the disclosure of this well, in my opinion. But too bad about the chainanalytics thing, because otherwise, the actual mixer... probably is harder to de-anonymize.

True the wars keep people reluctant to try either. If 100% used either product, chainanalytics would be screwed, even the one on the way in to Wasabi, lol.

I never really got into the in fighting, only really saw a few tweets, did a few googles and correct me if im wrong but these co-ordinators are funded by the same VCs, so i'm wondering if this is real banter or kayfabe to drum up attention

Hot take: Both will be irrelevant when Fedimint and/or Cashu becomes widespread

Makes me not want to even try both of them, personally. And like others point out, both of them are fighting over their centralised system of coinjoin matchmaking. So much energy not going into building a trustless, decentralised coinjoin layer 2 type platform.

i dont use either .... so I dont care

I also use ONLY custodial LN wallets as the UX is by far better

Yea, Im conscious of the risks and its nothing as the balance is ~0.2% of what i have in cold storage (ill use non-custodial when it improves dramatically)

At the end of the day, no one is forced to use any coinjoin functional.