For a community that champions "permissionless" and free speech, folks around here are rather, "Oh, you can't say that!"
Case in point: I recently wrote about private keys in a reply talking about Nostr private keys and reputation. I used a web3 chain as an example that uses multiple private keys (different levels of security) and has a reputation system built in.
The response I got was something like, "Bitcoin only."
I guess we must get permission to talk about some things. And, so much for free speech and thoughts.
Are we so tunnel-visioned that we can't even discuss things?
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Fair enough, thanks for your thoughts. I guess what I thought was odd was that I was talking exactly about what the convo was about: private keys, and if you yours on Nostr how you'd need to start over and reestablish reputation.
Regarding web3, it seems odd that that topic or that term is off limits here. Bitcoin is, in fact, a rather web3 protocol...it is decentralized, permissionless, and a user completely owns and controls his or her coins. Bitcoin isn't web, but the other tenets are there. I think I understand what you mean, though. When I read "web3" somewhere, there is a connotation that it's alluding to some blockchain besides Bitcoin.
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Nothing is truly off-limits here (sans legitmately illegal content, obviously); some will just be mindful of the Bitcoin-only sentiment the majority of users have here.
Looking at my posts, you'll quickly realize I'm not one of those people. Doesn't mean I'm disrespectful, unless the mudslinging hits me first.
All bets are off at that point.
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Tribalism is a real problem. Unfortunately, some communities are plagued with it.
I can opt to use Bitcoin only (for obvious reasons) and still try to understand the pros and cons of other approaches. Because if you don't, you also won't understand why your chosen approach is better at all. In the end it becomes a matter of faith and dogma, everybody loses when this point is reached.
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There is a difference between "free speech" and "backlash"
You have the right to free speech. You don't have a right to getting no backlash.
Other example: Your right to free speech allows somebody to walk through New York and scream that they like Joseph Stalin. Their right to free speech doesn't mean that people can't tell them they're an idiot.
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I don't think it's a case of you need permission, but it helps to read the room. If I was to walk in to a room full of ISIS fanatics and start talking about Jesus I might expect a hostile response.
That said, there's one project I like on another chain and it pisses me off that it's not been done on bitcoin layer 2's yet (DNS, ala unstoppable domains), but if it's meant to be it'll be.
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If I was to walk in to a room full of ISIS fanatics and start talking about Jesus I might expect a hostile response.
This kind of illustrates why I was a bit surprised. The conversation wasn't that diametrically opposed...it was private keys and reputation. I'll leave religion out of it and use another example...
Suppose I walked into a rugby meeting room and they're talking rugby injuries. I point out that the skills and activities in American football are similar and steps X, Y, and Z were taken to decrease injuries there. Then, I hear, "Rugby only here."
Oh, okay.
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My suggestion, you do you,
Why should you care about what other people think?
This is a Bitcoin social network of sorts, but as you well stated, it is permissionless and you can say whatever you want, the community , of course, will push back if you discuss alt coins or shill scams.
Feel free to be you and ignore the rants, if they agree with you, cool, you found yourself a tribe, have fun, if they don't, ignore and keep sharing your views and ideas, OR, fight us, debate us, insult us if you want, here, I for one enjoy the emotional rants of brave keyboard warriors LOL
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You posted your BS, and you got replies. What more do you want?
Sorry your definition of free speech means that people have to like your shitcoining takes. Welcome to the internet.
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People are wary (understandingly so) of snake oil salesmen shitcoiners trying to Trojan horse shill some shitcoin into the discussion. No saying that is what you are doing, but please understand why people are defensive about it. Scammers target agreeableness and use it to manipulate people so in that sense the "toxic" thing in Bitcoin is like an immune system. It may needlessly attack healthy cells now and again but you can rely on it to attack cancerous shitcoin scammers so I see it as a feature rather than a bug.
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Are you referring to this reply? #228536
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You didn't have to ask for permission to say that, so yes, this community is permissionless.
I'm having a hard time understanding how some people not liking or agreeing with what you said and providing negative responses make it a permissioned platform.
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Mentioning altcoins and Web3 on a Bitcoin-forum, is like mentioning meat- and diary consumption on a vegan-forum.
People made up their mind and chose to join a specific forum, only to find people talking about things they aren't interested in, what did you expect ?
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what did you expect ?
An open mind to discussion.
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you should keep an open mind about why we're telling you to fuck off about your web3 shitcoinery.
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Well, that wasn't very kind.
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You failed to grasp what I was trying to tell you; we're not interested in those topics.
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