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Roundtable feature enhancements thread. Going to write things as they come to me.
  • comment ranking priority should always be given to OP (mod of discussion)
  • while the roundtable is ongoing, it might be best to sort by most recent first
    • when the roundtable is over, sorting by top makes sense
  • obvi roundtable guests should probably get ranking priority too ... I like managing this with ranking rather than segregating the spectators and the guests
  • a "waiting area" for AMA/Roundtables where they can announce when they start in advance and build up sats to be used for ranking when they go live and comments.
    • I've noticed AMA people wanting to not wait while comments come in, but by the time they arrive to answer, the AMA is too old to rank high
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15 sats \ 1 reply \ @kr 29 Sep 2023
good idea. this reminds me of youtube where you can set a premiere time for a video, and your subscribers can see the countdown along with the thumbnail on their feed and can even leave a comment
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That's what I was thinking of
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I wonder if you could do something like "temporary ranking" for stuff like this? E.g., not sure what SN ranking the guests have, but, for the purposes of that thread, they should be the kings and queens of it. Which could be an interesting construct in other ways, maybe.
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  • could definitely use "live" updating comments either via websockets or polling
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Some assorted thoughts from someone who couldn't be there until it was over:
  • Would be cool to think of some mechanisms by which the discussion could play out over time. This is probably not a technology solution, but an informal one, e.g., "come be a part of this roundtable, but the assumption is that you'll re-approach it over the course of the next few days"
  • Could there be a thing where people submit questions in advance, and the moderators choose some? In a pinch, this could just be a normal SN post. (Maybe this even happened and I missed it.)
  • Seems like a good opportunity to increase density on old SN posts / increase the evergreen-ness of the site. E.g., questions could link to older relevant posts; and roundtable discussion could be summarized / aggregated into new SN posts. I am v interested in the idea of having these different ways of engaging with content, esp over time.
  • In fact, combining the prev two items, this suggests a potential role for someone who is actively curating the site and creating higher-level content out of more atomic units; and some tools to help perform that role.
  • Is it desirable to have other roundtable discussions that are not "official" (e.g., blessed by the sysops?) What user-level tools would be needed to do that successfully for someone w/out admin access?
Would love to talk about these ideas more if anyone cares.
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In fact, combining the prev two items, this suggests a potential role for someone who is actively curating the site and creating higher-level content out of more atomic units; and some tools to help perform that role.
The primitive might be allowing people to create lists of content kind of like pinterest boards or video playlists.
Is it desirable to have other roundtable discussions that are not "official" (e.g., blessed by the sysops?) What user-level tools would be needed to do that successfully for someone w/out admin access?
Anyone can create one. It's just a matter of forwarding sats to the roundtable participants. We don't give ourselves any special tools usually because we would prefer to not be In the Way.
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Perhaps lists is the answer. (How did you make that text red?) In my mind I'm thinking a bit of a mid-level structure note that people could compose like legos.
Some people who are really expert Twitter threaders wind up doing this, which is impressive given that Twitter is pretty much the shittiest possible interface for such a thing. But life finds a way.
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How did you make that text red?
Surround the text in backticks.
In my mind I'm thinking a bit of a mid-level structure note that people could compose like legos.
I'm still a total noob with this information mapping stuff, but composable/recursive is usually the thing that lets life find a way.
I believe when you first joined you mentioned your interest in information mapping (or maybe I'm misremembering). Is there any single greatest book on the subject?
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You remember correctly. I can only think of one book on the subject that I like, which is this one, but it is good. The best content tends to be not-books, which I guess isn't surprising. The site I linked to above is a treasure for that stuff. Maggie Appleton writes some very approachable things -- here's an example.
Another way to get an intuition is to Fuck Around And Find Out. The two best tools for this are probably Obsidian and Logseq. I've used both, but I mostly use this stupid thing I made myself that has accrued like geological time, hacked together out of emacs org mode and elisp. Org-roam is a more sensible variant of that approach that I keep intending to try, except my investment in my own arcane tool is so high.
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