Praying for peace in the middle east. 😥🙏 🕊 \ stacker news ~meta

pull down to refresh

Praying for peace in the middle east. 😥🙏 🕊

2855 sats \ 58 comments \ @SatoshisSkeleton 8 Oct 2023 meta

Watching events on unfold on X is heart wrenching. Considering what is a psyop and propaganda and what is real is also mind bending.

So many people involved, or not, are choosing sides. Neighboring countries ready to join. Turkish PM wants to help negotiate peace.

The issues between Israel and Palestine are layered, long standing, convoluted and have atrocities by both parties being committed over the past decades.

There are NO winners of a war especially like this.

I do not know a solution to such a complex issue that includes religion, land, atrocities etc. And gently suggest most of us don't either. Taking a firm stance on one side of the entire conflict is foolhardy. Here, it seems like Israel is the defensive party. But how they ended up here is complicated.

All I can do is pray for peace and cease fire so the atrocities against civilians stops and life is saved. I support any effort to negotiate this.

May God, if there is one, have mercy and kindness. 🙏

view all related items

120 sats \ 2 replies \ @elvismercury 8 Oct 2023

My Twitter feed is curated and pretty eclectic. What's notable to me is that, from reading the feed, I really have no idea wtf is going on and who the villains are. All the major current events feel this way now. Or at least, they do on Twitter.

Note: I used a shorthand ("villains") which I normally hate, bc it papers over decades or even millennia of human action. It's useful to recognize the human condition is a mess. But in this case, when a bunch of people were slaughtered at a concert, there was a pretty direct act of villainy, and yet it's somehow possible to miss that in my feed. Surreal.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @SatoshisSkeleton OP 9 Oct 2023

Great observation. Misinformation, disinformation, psy ops, propaganda, embellishment etc.

Dystopian.

25 sats \ 0 replies \ @satoshi_in_the_classroom 9 Oct 2023

Seconded

99 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 8 Oct 2023

Prays will never stop wars. Stop funding them. Stop supporting govs, stop paying taxes. And use Bitcoin. That is how you stop wars.

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @SovranSystems 8 Oct 2023

If we all understood this fully, we would all be in peace in an instant.

75 sats \ 2 replies \ @SatoshisSkeleton OP 8 Oct 2023

We're trying Darth...

1 sat \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 8 Oct 2023

btw... that is not a war... is a false flag. Stop watching TV, is all lies.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nemo 8 Oct 2023

deleted by author

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nikotsla 8 Oct 2023

👆

430 sats \ 5 replies \ @mallardshead 8 Oct 2023

What a naive post. A group of armed men take your wife and children from the supermarket, ferry them across the border in zip-ties as hostages, and a "firm" stance on either side shouldn't be taken. Is that something you'd tell the gunmen spitting on your child's naked corpse in the back of a pickup truck? "Look guys, I understand this is a complicated issue, and because of the past, this war crime is justified, maybe we can shake hands and negotiate. In the meantime, can you lower my daughter's bloody corpse? We're going to wanna bury her before the rot sets in. Thanks guys—careful don't let her fall. Alright that should do it. Thoughts and prayers. Good luck."

226 sats \ 4 replies \ @SatoshisSkeleton OP 8 Oct 2023

What a naive opinion.

How much about this geopolitical conflict are you referencing? Go back a few years and it's the opposite. Then a few years back and it's opposite of that. And the pattern continues.

Anyone thinking one party is innocent in the conflict as a whole is either ignorantly or willfully blind.

Atrocities on both sides that swings back and forth. Back and forth. Back and forth.

35 sats \ 0 replies \ @tenderscore 8 Oct 2023

meh, what we watched was pure evil & videotaped war crimes. mom with the 2 twins was too heartbreaking to watch. u tryna justify any of that for any historical reason is some real bs. sick dude. war crimes don't justify war crimes. bunch of these people killed and kidnapped were not even Israeli lol! what ru talking about back and forth dude?

100 sats \ 2 replies \ @mallardshead 8 Oct 2023

I don't give a damn what happened last year, last decade, last century, or when your last whataboutism argument carried the full-backing of twitter. You haven't got a clue what you're trying to say, you just have a desire to be liked.

25 sats \ 1 reply \ @sudonaka 9 Oct 2023

Exactly because action and reaction has no impact on human history. Keep drinking the coolaid regard

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @mallardshead 9 Oct 2023

When you see evil, call it out. You don't need to do gymnastics, overthink, or try getting intellectual. There's no nuance to war crime, because war crime violates fundamental human rights. There's no justification for murdering a German family, shooting a rave of dancing kids, gunning down Thai tourists, running over American citizens, or kidnapping children because of what Israelis did at some point in the past. Complete pyrrhic victory by Hamas. and now what? What's the plan now? They had their terrorist fun, destroyed innocent lives while invoking god—"Allah Akbar"—and what now? Mohammad comes down on a cloud from Jannah? What idiots convinced them this attack would have any longterm benefit?

20 sats \ 7 replies \ @k00b 8 Oct 2023

I'm afraid this is more of the beginning of increasing global conflict ... it certainly is if Dalio is right.

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @satoshi_in_the_classroom 9 Oct 2023

😰

15 sats \ 0 replies \ @Stacksats 9 Oct 2023

Yeah

10 sats \ 4 replies \ @SatoshisSkeleton OP 8 Oct 2023

Oh no. Can you ELI5 the books main point(s)?

110 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 8 Oct 2023

Dalio made an animated video summary of the book: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xguam0TKMw8. I highly recommend the animated video summaries of all his books. I wrote the below summary before remembering the videos existed.

According to Dalio, who based this on a study of thousands of years of world orders and reserve currencies ...

The leading world power determines global order and issues the world reserve currency.
The leading world power expands their military empire to enforce order and maintain world reserve currency status and they take on increasing amounts of debt (because if anyone is going to pay their debt it's them and why not?).
They experience incredible debt fueled prosperity but slowly they begin to stop being as productive as they once were (because a. they'd rather just take on more debt and b. they have to begin paying their past debt)
Gradually then suddenly, their empire and debt is larger than they can service and they begin to debase their currency more and more to pay their debts and maintain their empire
The world, sensing their demise, dumps their currency and bonds which furthers an inflationary spiral
Up and coming world powers, sensing their demise, begin to challenge them economically and militarily (knowing they can't afford to engage in ongoing conflicts for much longer) ... which further weakens them
... disorder (war) ensues
... and so on until they're no longer able to enforce world order and have hyper-inflated their currency such they are no longer the issuers of the world reserve currency
another leading world power emerges (usually the best educated, most economically productive, mightiest militarily, etc) and establishes a world reserve currency that they control
then the new world power begins this cycle themselves over the course of 50-150 years

We are somewhere around 4 & 5 based on world events I'd guess.

20 sats \ 0 replies \ @Stacksats 9 Oct 2023

Yeah. It's all happening

40 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatoshisSkeleton OP 8 Oct 2023

😮😮‍💨😰 thanks. If this is based on a pattern then we're in for some trouble.

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @Stacksats 9 Oct 2023

👀

1885 sats \ 2 replies \ @satoshi_in_the_classroom 8 Oct 2023

Thoughts and prayers are usually cringy... but not now. Humanity needs to rise above this. So hard to see this happening. 🙏 Calls for cease fire and peace are what's needed. ✌️

35 sats \ 0 replies \ @Stacksats 8 Oct 2023

💔

5 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatoshisSkeleton OP 8 Oct 2023

Yeah. Ugh. Brutal to watch

150 sats \ 0 replies \ @Stacksats 8 Oct 2023

😰 no words

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @brave 8 Oct 2023

This prayers are very much needed

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @SatoshisSkeleton OP 8 Oct 2023

😥💔💗🙏

30 sats \ 0 replies \ @Stacksats 9 Oct 2023

🙏

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @BlokchainB 8 Oct 2023

🙏🙏

55 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatoshisSkeleton OP 8 Oct 2023

💗 Wish there was more we could do.

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @fred 8 Oct 2023

I pray for the citizens

360 sats \ 0 replies \ @Stacksats 9 Oct 2023

Godspeed

25 sats \ 0 replies \ @SatoshisSkeleton OP 8 Oct 2023

Same. 😥 Civilians caught in the middle.

1 sat \ 14 replies \ @nikotsla 8 Oct 2023

Bitcoin fix this, send signal buying bitcoin...

50 sats \ 13 replies \ @elvismercury 8 Oct 2023

Do tell how btc fixes this.

10 sats \ 12 replies \ @Bullen 8 Oct 2023

One short answer could be that wars are really fucking expensive. And if a government who wants to go to war has the ability to print money via FIAT, they will never run out of funds, thus long wars are able to exist.

If you have a finite bitcoin reserve though, it'll be a short war. And who wants to deplete their whole stash for a short war?

81 sats \ 6 replies \ @elvismercury 8 Oct 2023

Wars are certainly expensive. An open question is what happens to a country that's on a hard money standard in a contest with a country that's not.

56 sats \ 3 replies \ @Stacksats 8 Oct 2023

Good questions here. Saying "bitcoin fixes this" without any context or insight is moot.

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @sudonaka 8 Oct 2023

Bitcoin fixes this because the funding of these conflicts would not be possible without fiat money from the government. https://www.ft.com/content/1a9f7e7e-7c43-11e7-9108-edda0bcbc928 the first example of this was ww1 and all wars since then have been a result of fake money

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @elvismercury 8 Oct 2023

The Roman republic, in a time of health and outside of the periods of monetary debasement that bitcoiners talk endlessly about, was at war for more than a hundred years straight, vs different enemies in and out of the Italian peninsula.

In a later Imperial period, one of the prominent ways that sound money manifested in the world was that the armies conquered the Mediterranean and looted all the sound money they could get, which was most of it. The accounts of the later triumphs make good reading.

Bitcoin might achieve countervailing force against some social ills, but the idea that bitcoin fixes war is so trivially absurd that I'm not sure why I still care about pointing it out. Bitcoin hasn't fixed that, either.

15 sats \ 0 replies \ @sudonaka 9 Oct 2023

unlike gold, bitcoin cannot be forcibly seized.

if you dont believe or dont get it, I dont have time to try to convince you. sorry

reply on another page

110 sats \ 1 reply \ @bzzzt 8 Oct 2023

A country with the ability to borrow from its populace en masse and without consent will undoubtedly win in attrition against a country on a hard money standard...holding everything else constant.

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @elvismercury 8 Oct 2023

That seems to me how it would play out, too. The counter-argument I can imagine is that the only way that a country in the modern world could get on a btc / hard money standard again would be if all the other countries also were. Put differently, maybe "all else equal" is not a reasonable axiom to assume, even for a thought experiment.

But the burden of proof -- or of really convincing argumentation -- needs to be on the people talking about a reality other than the one we're in now.

0 sats \ 4 replies \ @kristapsk 8 Oct 2023

Bitcoin might only help prevent long big wars, which will not be affordable. Also rational people will have less reason to got to war.

But things like Hamas going into music festival and murder hudreds of unarmed innocent people, no, Bitcoin does not solve this. As these radicals aren't rational thinking.

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @sudonaka 9 Oct 2023

you only see the news when 1 side dies

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @kristapsk 9 Oct 2023

Yes, I haven't seen other side doing something like this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re%27im_music_festival_massacre.

But they have good teachers - Russians do similar stuff in almost all wars.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @sudonaka 10 Oct 2023

lmfao go sign up for the military

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kristapsk 10 Oct 2023

I can't have opinion on wars without being in military? Or what? Or are you just stupid?