can't you see who's zapping what?
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39 sats \ 19 replies \ @DarthCoin 8 Nov 2023
No.
That's why I always say: SN is a beautiful "coinjoin" tool if you know how to use it.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Natalia 8 Nov 2023
😂😂😂
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0 sats \ 17 replies \ @0xbitcoiner OP 8 Nov 2023
thanks
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0 sats \ 16 replies \ @Michelson_Morley 8 Nov 2023
@DarthCoin and @Natalia, once again coincidentally supporting each other and handwaving away (with zero explanation) doubt in a potential buyer of their hoarded asset. No problem here, @k00b? :/ relevant truth fast.
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69 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 8 Nov 2023
secret information is only for true bitcoiners that know how to use secret DM messages on SN.
Not for shitcoiners.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Michelson_Morley 8 Nov 2023
Indeed not (I had no idea of such a feature). Guys. I'm not here to antagonize you in any way. I was only speaking to @k00b.
Go on as you wish.
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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 8 Nov 2023
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Michelson_Morley 8 Nov 2023
I actually laughed at that. Thanks man.
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0 sats \ 11 replies \ @Natalia 8 Nov 2023
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100 sats \ 10 replies \ @td 9 Nov 2023
@DarthCoin waved away the issue from a position of zero knowledge, or worse, if he did know he intentionally misled. But in fairness did accurately answer the exact question that was put. @Michelson_Morley I suppose really wants to know if there is a record somewhere of who has zapped what.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 9 Nov 2023
No. He wanted to know our "secret" about coinjoin over SN.
And that information was passed over the SN DM feature that some users (that paid attention) are using it.
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56 sats \ 8 replies \ @Michelson_Morley 9 Nov 2023
Actually, I was mostly commenting on something unrelated that I was discussing with k00b.
The specifics of the actual privacy of Lightning are far from simple. I was pointing out that it is fairly immoral to create a platform where con-artists (let's let them remain unnamed) with great incentive to lie about their own competence, do just that, when a new user with stars in their eyes wants to speculate away their money on cryptocurrency.
The privacy of lightning is far from solved. It is also difficult to find unbiased sources about it, especially on this website: The person here who could explain the details of how much is handwaved away by DarthCoin with the phrase "No it's private if you know how to use it", is probably @TonyGiorgio. But though his expertise isn't in doubt, he also has incentive to "be bullish" about the state of things.
Here are a few links for @0xbitcoiner about privacy and lightning to show what I mean.
An article that doesn't try to sell it to you:
https://voltage.cloud/blog/lightning-network-faq/lightning-network-privacy-explainer/
A better source, the actual git repo where they propose how to solve privacy concerns (note, still in proposal phase):
https://github.com/lightning/bolts/blob/master/proposals/route-blinding.md
Or the meeting the lightning devs had a few days ago, which also partly concerned privacy.
https://github.com/lightning/bolts/issues/1116
So yes, handwaving OPs question away is not great. But Darth/Nat can do what they want, I don't specifically care about them but more about stacker.news as a whole.
and PS. I don't care about coinjoin over SN at all, whatever that is, I don't use crypto other than in my job and I have no reason to be "pseudonymous". I would like to know how to DM people on stacker though...
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17 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 9 Nov 2023
What is your definition of coinjoin?
Coinjoin = putting some coins together, mixing them and move them out into a new set of UTXOs, right?
So now, apply that with LN, using SN.
I am depositing some bunch of sats (coins) into a SN account (could be anonymous too) and move them around through different other Sn accounts.
Then move them out into a LN wallet or even a swap service for onchain.
Please indicate me the original UTXO if you can.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @Michelson_Morley 9 Nov 2023
i do not care, sorry. I'm working on something else. Maybe you're right, maybe not. Go in peace
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100 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 9 Nov 2023
Your lack of LN knowledge is disturbing
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9 sats \ 2 replies \ @Michelson_Morley 9 Nov 2023
Oh you mean like that! Okay well yeah I did actually know about that (used it to message @Onions yesterday in fact). Thought you meant some stacker.news specific thing
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