Easiest onboarding options for small businesses to accept lightning
2585 sats \ 13 comments \ @ACYK 11 Nov 2023 bitcoin
-There is the hidden Square point of sale integration within the Zeus app -Breez has the point of sale section -As of last month BitPay now supports Lightning payments -BTC Pay Server is a great option for the more tech savvy merchants -They could go full node with Start9, Umbrel, Raspiblitz, etc. but we’re starting to drastically deviate from ‘brand new to bitcoin’ now
What others am I missing? Has anyone had more success with one in particular for merchants who are brand new to bitcoin?
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361 sats \ 1 reply \ @0245bdaef2 11 Nov 2023
Nodeless.io is interesting
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @ACYK OP 11 Nov 2023
Agreed, thanks for adding it to the list!
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320 sats \ 2 replies \ @btcschellingpnt 11 Nov 2023
Also have a look at @voltpay which supports both custodial and non-custodial lightning use for merchant payments, as well as the ability to create a product inventory with pricing similar to most good PointOfSale systems
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @ACYK OP 11 Nov 2023
Looks promising. Interesting that it has been out for a year with so few reviews or mentions. The recommendation would just be to withdraw regularly to not get rugged by a fairly unknown entity.
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @btcschellingpnt 11 Nov 2023
I believe the new release has an auto-withdraw-on-threshold implemented but I haven't tested it yet. I understand this to mean that as a merchant, I can set a threshold (say 1m sats) that I'm comfortable in a custodial/voltpay wallet setting, and on reaching that threshold it automatically sends to a nominated cold-storage wallet I control
The best of both worlds imo
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320 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 11 Nov 2023
Its custodial LN but open node works well with square point of sale.
There's also LNbits
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101 sats \ 0 replies \ @ACYK OP 11 Nov 2023
There's also LNbits
Yea, LNbits is what I would go with if someone was comfortable running their own node. It seems LNBits has a hosted version in the works, available for demo currently. Fee is 70 sats per hour. So around $18 per month at current prices. Alternatives would include getting a hosted node through Voltage and paying ~$30 a month for a full node running LNBits. I also see Voltage has a BTCPay Server node for ~$9 per month. For a merchant new to lightning, having the Voltage support would likely be a big plus.
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531 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 11 Nov 2023
Here some guides for merchants. Are many levels they could start...
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @ACYK OP 11 Nov 2023
Great list of guides as always. Thanks for consolidating here!
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310 sats \ 1 reply \ @kristapsk 11 Nov 2023
As of last month BitPay now supports Lightning payments
BitPay sucks, if you really need centralized third party payment processor, check out CoinGate, they were the first ones integrating Lightning years ago.
BTC Pay Server is a great option for the more tech savvy merchants
Yes, BTCPay Server is probably the best option. Another lightweight alternative is SatSale.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @ACYK OP 11 Nov 2023
Two more options added to the list. Thanks! I'm going to make a spreadsheet of all the options I can come up with, with columns for custodial/non-custodial, cost structure, method of support (if any), largest pros and cons that come to mind, etc.
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310 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 11 Nov 2023
Please NEVER ever recommend to any new merchant to use Bitpay. Bitpay and Conbase are the fucking enemies of Bitcoin! https://debitpay.directory/anti-bitcoin/
BOYCOTT THE MOTHERFUCKERS
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300 sats \ 0 replies \ @TSW 11 Nov 2023
https://www.opennode.com/ has been working well for me with a webshop.
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