This is my rattled off response to a non-Bitcoiner who sent me this article.
Putting it here on sn to have my thoughts honed/challenged:
The article author makes the classic mistake of confusing "crypto" with Bitcoin. Whether it is intentional or not, hard to say, but they must have access to the same information that I do and yet they still get it wrong, so I typically think it is done in bad faith.
Bottom line is that Bitcoin does not need permission from the regulators to exist or be used. As time passes more and more people will realise this.
“This is an industry that has run its course,” he says. “If it all went away tomor­row, it wouldn’t impact a single per­son on the planet other than the spec­u­lator.”
Absolute nonsense. Again, is it bad faith, or is this guy really just clueless, or perhaps does not care about the majority of the world's population. People do not have bank accounts or who live under regimes that have inflated (through unchecked money printing) their savings out of existence before defaulting on their debt. If you were Argentinian, for example, I believe this would have happened to you four times in the last 50 years! Bitcoin is a safe haven where the state is not able to confiscate, overtly or covertly (inflation), peoples' savings. It also provides financial rails where individuals can transfer value around the world at the speed of light, for free, with no broker, middle man, "rent seeker" slowing down the transaction as well as charging fees, for something that, like I said can now be done better and for free.
"crypto­cur­ren­cies are used to fund ter­ror­ism and the pro­lif­er­a­tion of nuc­lear weapons."
"Nuclear weapons"(scary! Aslo, evidence?), that is actually a new one when this kind of line is trotted out. Bear in mind all of these things can be purchased untraceably with cash, so perhaps we outlaw that as well.
"The industry’s car­bon foot­print is roughly equi­val­ent to a coun­try the size of Ukraine."
Again, bad faith point, there is extensive research that shows that Bitcoin projects enable people to fund more risky renewables projects. If this author wanted to do a fair comparison they might calculate the energy consumption of the fiat monetary system; all those ATM, Banks, journeys taken by those employees to get to work, all those server farms, all of those militaries defending all of those things. Arbitrarily comparing it to the energy use of a country is emotive nonsense. If they really cared they might write a headline about clothes dryers using more energy than the Bitcoin network, and clothes drying machines already have an effective, available-to-all, zero-energy alternative that already exists. In any case who is anyone to decide how somebody else chooses to use their energy (financial or otherwise). Who are they to say what has value and what does not have value?
https://x.com/DSBatten/status/1723841740938109350?s=20 - Links to sources about environmental claims.
"In the wake of the Octo­ber 7 atro­cit­ies, Israeli law enforce­ment author­it­ies closed more than 100 Binance accounts and iden­ti­fied about 150 crypto dona­tion ini­ti­at­ives affil­i­ated with Hamas"
The original headline that was run about this was that Hamas had been donated hundreds of millions of dollars. Elizabeth Warren, American Congresswoman showcased this headline in front of Congress, even after it was debunked as being erroneous. Bad faith again. Good to see they have not gone for the hundreds of millions figure again, but the article does not say the true figure, which I believe is vanishingly small. Would have to double check that though.
"He has lost money with FTX and Voy­ager, another crypto firm that col­lapsed last year. “The exper­i­ence has made me a lot more con­ser­vat­ive,” he adds."
If he just self-custodied his own Bitcoin instead of giving it to "trusted" third parties then none of this would have affected him. At all.
"proof of reserves"
Twitter users calling for FTX to demonstrate this led to the whole fraud unwinding. https://balajis.com/p/crypto-twitter-found-sbfs-fraud
Like I said at the top, Bitcoin doesn't require permission to do anything that it does, but it will keep doing it anyway. It is the first time that an unconfiscatable asset has ever existed and I am sure the powers-that-be are really expending a great deal of energy trying to work out how they can destroy/control it.
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🤦‍♂️ an unforgiveable oversight
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What’s FT?
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Click the archive.is link, it's the Financial Times, in my opinion the most decent UK newspaper
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Most of these writers have never use Bitcoin so I don't take in their option of it
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But it is worth bearing in mind that this is what most "financially informed" people in the UK, and further afield, will be reading.
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Good comments.
The FT are beyond saving - perhaps apart from new reporters I don’t think you can count on them for any decent reporting as far as Bitcoin is concerned.
A while back, a couple of us went through Jemima Kelly’s podcast episode “the cult of Bitcoin” and wrote thoughts on it. If you can spare the time to read, I think it shows every tool available they use to belittle and confuse about Bitcoin.
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I read the FT online (via archives) too. I think they're well aware that their coverage has been consistently one sided.
I know they don't differentiate between crypto and Bitcoin but I found it interesting how this reporter last week reacted to a literal shitcoin ATM operator in one of their pieces last week (my emphasis),
Crypto ATMs are a niche but still growing area, despite whack-a-mole efforts by regulators to shut them down for being the ideal way to launder money. Operators say they help ordinary people convert fiat (real) money into and out of their crypto wallets, much like a normal cash point does with a normal bank account. One operator of machines across Europe, the aptly named Shitcoins Club, says it helps people in “bypassing the banking system”. To better understand their business model we contacted Shitcoins Club, but were told: “our company’s focus and client base do not align well with the interests of your readership, which primarily represents the traditional fiat-based financial system.” Ouch.
The crypto ATM business is somehow still booming https://archive.md/31DCn
I think reporters are fully aware that they're pushing a narrative - like all bullies they're often happy to join a fight if they feel they'll benefit and that they're on the winning side.
You're right that the paper is seen normally as a 'decent' newspaper - after all, it's said about it that wealthy readers need accuracy as their investing relies upon it.
Many nuggets of truth have been teased out from their pages because of this.
But, this is hardly ever the case in their 'Digital Currency' pieces - which often seem more like 'hit pieces' rather than reporting.
This seems likely to change when Bitcoin ETFs are rolled out though.
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This is great, nice work I’ll share it with others! We are winning!
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The FT is a uk based paper, and taking that into account, the article is not surprising.
  1. UK residents cannot invest in crypto/bitcoin funds, eg Greyscale. The UK's regulator, the FCA, banned retail investors from being sold such funds. https://www.fca.org.uk/publications/policy-statements/ps20-10-prohibiting-sale-retail-clients-investment-products-reference-cryptoassets
  2. UK banks regularly block/restrict payments from bank accounts to crypto exchanges, and send out messages urging customers to avoid crypto scams
  3. However, most people in the UK have a free, functioning bank account, online retail banking is hassle free, and online transfers to friends and family are often free and immediate (not really, there is a 3 day clearance but the funds are made available in accounts straight away), so most people dont need the benefits of the Lightning Network.
  4. You only have to view the FT's UK HQ online to realise most of the people working there have no idea what it is like to be one of billions of the world's unbanked!! (ok that last point was cynical).
  5. I would guess the vast majority of "informed" FT readers have no idea Bitcoin is any different from FTX. (Again, opinion!)
  6. What is interesting is the UK's banks do get fined for money laundering! https://www.fca.org.uk/news/press-releases/natwest-fined-264.8million-anti-money-laundering-failures
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Cnbc gives better financial analysis than FT
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Will take a look
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I'd like to know more about the "non-Bitcoiner" and the context of the discussion. For example, do you think they linked this article to you in good faith? Are they seriously considering purchasing some Bitcoin?
On a side note, the guy's X profile background image is spot-on 😂
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I think these journalists are not allowed to own any crypto as it would be deemed a conflict of interest.
Probably a good idea on paper but could also joke that they should not be allowed to own cash by the same logic.
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Did you mean to reply to #315637 ?
To be clear, I was asking about the person that sent you the article, not the journalist. Sorry for the confusion.
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Didn’t read your reply properly. My non-Bitcoiner is someone who knows I’m interested in “crypto” so will have pinged it over for that reason. Complete good faith. Can’t imagine that they are at all interested in purchasing any themselves.
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Got it. In that case, why bother to take the time to write such a long reply to them? It sounds like you're trying to convince them of something, but I'm not sure what or why. Depending on what the purpose was, it would affect how I critique your post. But obviously I agree with your overarching point, which is that this article is filled with misleading half-truths.
Another side note – I'm genuinely curious if the author is purposely trying to mislead, or if this is really the way he sees things. Quotes like this:
"Fol­low­ing Hamas’s attack on Israel, more than 100 law­makers from both major polit­ical parties in the US signed a let­ter urging the Biden admin­is­tra­tion to out­line the steps it is tak­ing to mit­ig­ate crypto­cur­ren­cies being used as a means of fin­an­cing ter­ror­ism."
show that we're living in two different realities. He cites "more than 100 lawmakers" as if that should be an impressive statistic, an appeal to authority. But we know these are just a bunch of grifting ignoramuses pursuing the Current Thing.
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Why do anything? I wanted to.
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