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there may be foss clients, but they still connect closed source TG servers, you can't self host TG, it's centralised

if you trust TG you might just as well trust TikTok

or SMS

Just because you've invested time building TG communities and content, doesn't justify shilling TG as a safe platform for chatting / communicating. It's not paranoia, you know as well as I do that TG admins can see a LOT of detail in relation to users and conversations.

I don"t give a shit if admins can see it.
Maybe that way they learn more about bitcoin.

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Then we can agree it's more of a "public messenger" than a private messenger

Not frictionless to use, we might agree on that also

@BEUK - my wrath was entirely TG related, sorry to hijack your post

Do you have a nostr presence?