☝️What’s the best NonCustodian wallet for android 5.5 and other outdated phones?
798 sats \ 16 comments \ @mo 6 Dec 2023 bitcoin
Having issue finding an installable non custodial wallet on old phones, the last one 👇
Plus, the phones am looking at have no access to google play US
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21 sats \ 4 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 6 Dec 2023
You can try app.mutinywallet.com in the web browser on that phone.
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 6 Dec 2023
mutinywallet.com
that domain is not "self-custodial"... you said yourself... run your own node / domain. not your domain = not your node... or we get back to WoS domains?
btw... did you ever tried to install a latest web browser on an android 5? LOL where is that security expert Tony Giorgio, recommending to run an old browser that will keep the node keys ?
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543 sats \ 2 replies \ @TonyGiorgio 6 Dec 2023
Fuck off with your lies.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @mo OP 7 Dec 2023
True lies hurts
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 7 Dec 2023
What lies?
You can try app.mutinywallet.com in the web browser on that phone.
you literally pointed to use Mutiny onto a domain the user can't control it. is that a lie? Any time that domain could be shut down or even worse, you close the access. I can't name that self-custodial, even that keys are in my device.
Do you trust an Android 5 security keeping Mutiny keys? Running his own domain, LDK node and Mutiny server for that user that barely have an old device with Android 5 is not an option. Is that also a lie?
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @notgeld 6 Dec 2023
Not sure but you may try Valet.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.btcontract.walletfiat
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 6 Dec 2023
Plus, the phones am looking at have no access to google play US
OP literally said "no google services" and you still send a playstore link LOL At least give a github apk link.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @notgeld 6 Dec 2023
google play US
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0 sats \ 7 replies \ @DarthCoin 6 Dec 2023
Wow, a real challenge for an android 5...
  1. the hardware is really slow and limited.
  2. this mobile device will be good only as "a cold wallet" offline.
  3. I do not think any of actual wallet app will run on that old device.
  4. I tested many android devices but not older than android 7... 5 is really too old.
  5. You could try an update to Lineage, with a android 7 at least, but not sure if that hardware still support it.
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0 sats \ 6 replies \ @mo OP 7 Dec 2023
Thanks.
OBW I believe isn't a option either, right?
Or what about the latest version of Zeus?
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0 sats \ 5 replies \ @DarthCoin 7 Dec 2023
None of them will work on Android 5. Forget about that device. You will get into more trouble than fix something.
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21 sats \ 4 replies \ @mo OP 7 Dec 2023
Unfortunately, for some people, those phones are the only option. They have internet access, but old hardware.
Could be an alternative option to have them using a custodial wallet only for daily transactions and on parallel a non-custodial solution for savings?
if this is a suitable option, what could be a sweet custodial alternative? Green as suggested here?
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @DarthCoin 7 Dec 2023
The problem with recent apps and especially with LN is that require some more hardware and software. android 5 is really old, reduced in functionalities and power. The only think I could think will be the old Schildbach, one of the first mobile bitcoin wallets. But that one doesn't have LN, only onchain and I think is quite obsolete, but still works. https://wallet.schildbach.de/ so yes, you could try this one. If you want only for "savings", then just use Sentinel. is a watch-only app. Is simple and could workd. But you will have to create the wallet and extract the xpub on another device/way, offline.
You could try Machankura, you know what they are using on those old phones.
Green will not work either, is too much required as OS level. Custodials? Many: CoinOS, Walletano, LifePay, LNbits all on PWA but are custodials, you said you don't want custodial....
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21 sats \ 2 replies \ @mo OP 7 Dec 2023
Schildbach look's a great options and still maintained (unbelivable!)
Custodial option better than nothing when accompanied by a non-custodial... we'll try and post updates here.
Thanks again
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DarthCoin 7 Dec 2023
What you can do is to use CoinOS or Walletano for receiving LN. And then swap out (they have integrated swaps) into onchain (Schildbach), when the amount is well enough. See if you can generate segwit address in that Schildbach.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @mo OP 7 Dec 2023

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